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今晚在一澳洲网站上看到的,有关新SOL的职业数量。

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节选。其中第二点,新名单上不到20个职业。
但愿不是真的。。。。。

原贴地址:http://www.campusreview.com.au/pages/section/article.php?s=News&idArticle=14802

Lessons in Skills Australia’s migration role

The development of the occupational hit-list for the skilled migration program reveals as much about Skills Australia as it does about what’s likely to be on the list.

In choosing Skills Australia to develop the new skilled occupation list (SOL) for migration purposes, the federal government has demonstrated three things. First, skilled immigration is being fully integrated with domestic workforce planning. Second, the new hit list of occupations for skilled migrants, which is due to be released in April, is likely to contain fewer than 20 occupations. And third, Skills Australia is pushing ahead with its new workforce development strategy - even though it hasn't been released yet. The thrust of the strategy is that central planners should stop trying to.

[ 本帖最后由 miaomiao890402 于 20-2-2010 04:24 编辑 ]

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发表于 20-2-2010 04:04:12 | 只看该作者
恐怖
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发表于 20-2-2010 04:11:28 | 只看该作者
晕,加拿大还38个呢。。。。。和关上了移民之门也没啥区别了。
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发表于 20-2-2010 11:02:10 | 只看该作者
但愿不是真的。
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发表于 20-2-2010 11:30:13 | 只看该作者
ACS们 可以洗洗睡了~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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发表于 20-2-2010 11:38:52 | 只看该作者
靠,真是这样,NNGJ,ACS能给我退费不。做了个没用的职业申请,早知道,鬼才会做!
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发表于 20-2-2010 11:51:39 | 只看该作者
静候新政出台。。。
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发表于 20-2-2010 12:00:54 | 只看该作者
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别着急
我听了爱文思的话

觉得澳大利亚 移民局的 目的 无非就是
1. 要英语技能高的
2. 要能为澳大利亚干活的

所以我觉得只要澳大利亚 劳动力市场紧缺的职业 都不会减少

等结果吧
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发表于 20-2-2010 12:08:30 | 只看该作者
这也太杯具了。他们不要人了呀?
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发表于 20-2-2010 12:16:26 | 只看该作者
可能是这20个occupations都是大类,不像加拿大分的那么细。
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发表于 20-2-2010 12:21:19 | 只看该作者

有可能啊,现在变数很大,所以职业评估,雅思和移民申请最好等到一切都明朗了再开始搞,以免花钱做了无用功,这段时间就加强英语学习好了。
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发表于 20-2-2010 12:30:23 | 只看该作者
哎..现在总共多少个,有没有人统计过..只说大类...
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发表于 20-2-2010 12:33:00 | 只看该作者
这个是权威媒体么。。。
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发表于 20-2-2010 12:33:08 | 只看该作者
难道澳洲也要关门?
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发表于 20-2-2010 12:55:30 | 只看该作者
   miaomiao 真厉害 那里找到那么多料 ?
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发表于 20-2-2010 13:01:33 | 只看该作者
应该不会这么恐怖的吧,毕竟是移民国家
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发表于 20-2-2010 13:03:41 | 只看该作者
注册了一下,搞了个全文,我认为的重要之处用红字标出来了。请大家指教。

Lessons in Skills Australia’s migration role
15 Feb 10 by John Ross | Print this story | Send this story to a friend

The development of the occupational hit-list for the skilled migration program reveals as much about Skills Australia as it does about what’s likely to be on the list.

In choosing Skills Australia to develop the new skilled occupation list (SOL) for migration purposes, the federal government has demonstrated three things.

First, skilled immigration is being fully integrated with domestic workforce planning.

Second, the new hit list of occupations for skilled migrants, which is due to be released in April, is likely to contain fewer than 20 occupations.

And third, Skills Australia is pushing ahead with its new workforce development strategy – even though it hasn’t been released yet.

The thrust of the strategy is that central planners should stop trying to second-guess future skill needs in most trades and professions, and instead focus on a handful of high-risk occupations.

In last October’s discussion paper (CR, 12.10.09, Skills Australia outlined four criteria for defining high-risk occupations. They included those “where the skills are specialised and there is a long lead time to develop them”, and “where there is significant disruption if the skills are in short supply”.

“Skills Australia has tested these criteria and identified some 20 broad occupations including engineers, nurses, carpenters and joiners as ‘high-risk’,” the paper said.

“It’s not a question of not planning for the other 80 per cent of occupations. It’s about where planning can be most effective at the national level,” Skills Australia CEO Robin Shreeve said.

Skills Australia says it expects to release the final strategy by early next month, and that consultations have revealed broad support for its approach. But a Skills Australia statement last week indicated it was already applying the strategy – with the SOL to be the first cab off the rank.

“It will focus on specialised occupations that require a long lead time of formal education and training and where the economic impact of not having those skills is significant,” the statement said.

This suggests the SOL will contain only high-risk occupations – around 20 at the most. Probably fewer, as the list won’t include occupations where evidence suggests the needs can be met through domestic education and training.

This would put the new SOL in the same ballpark – in length, at any rate – as the original migrant occupations in demand list (MODL), which was scrapped last week after ballooning to 106 occupations.

“When the MODL was first introduced it was highly targeted – it often only had about eight occupations on it,” said Professor Lesleyanne Hawthorne, associate dean (international) at the University of Melbourne.

Hawthorne said the new list would target “select occupations where there is always strong demand”. She predicted health, engineering, a few IT fields and a couple of trades. Accountants might also get priority treatment, she said, but only those with advanced English language skills.

Last week immigration minister Chris Evans said the list would focus on “high-value professions and trades”. He indicated it was likely to contain nurses, doctors and people with skills needed by the resources sector.

One thing’s certain: the new SOL won’t look anything like the existing one – an exhaustive inventory of more than 400 occupations, almost all of which earn between 40 and 60 of the 120 points needed for independent skilled migration. The now defunct MODL and the more targeted critical skills list – which will be phased out, according to last week’s announcement – are both relatively small subsets of the current SOL.

Meanwhile, the giddy rise of Skills Australia continues unabated.

The body was established less than two years ago and populated with government insiders such as ACTU president Sharan Burrow and Australian Industry Group CEO Heather Ridout, as well as training experts such as Professor Gerald Burke and industry heavyweights such as Philip Bullock. Its original brief was to advise the government about emerging skill needs.

Its ambit was broadened last March to include labour market needs across higher education as well as VET. Last week’s announcement adds a central role in immigration planning.

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 楼主| 发表于 20-2-2010 13:07:30 | 只看该作者
这几天没有好好啃英语,全看英语资料了.新的职业用anzsco,应该跟asco有对应的.反正
偶不指望能出现我的职了,主要看将来各州担了....
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发表于 20-2-2010 13:11:22 | 只看该作者
几个要点:
1. Skill Australia是个独立机构,移民局新的SOL会基于这个机构给出的工种评估。

2.这个机构下个月初可能会推出新的报告

3.这个机构去年10月推出的一个报告中,engineers, nurses, carpenters and joiners 被标记为high-risk,个人理解是最需要的职业,但可能也有其他,大约20个左右,具体要去看他的报告。

4.基于这个机构的一些消息,下个月初的报告中,以上20个high-risk职业可能会减少,很少可能会增加。而SOL很可能会参考他的20个不到的high-risk职业。

5.某个墨尔本大学的教授——不知道他跟skill Australia有何关系——预测说,新的REPORT中, health, engineering, a few IT fields and a couple of trades这些应该在其中,而accounting 则是 might在其中。

6.Evans说澳洲需要护士和医生,及其它需要的职业。
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发表于 20-2-2010 13:18:25 | 只看该作者
新政策实行前提交的case依然按照老政策走

移民局最新会议结果,所以已经通过评估的就不用怕了
http://www.aobo.com.au/thread-168733-1-1.html
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 楼主| 发表于 20-2-2010 13:18:37 | 只看该作者
那报告我看过,是有high risk 这么一说的.
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发表于 20-2-2010 13:23:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 camus_dvd 于 20-2-2010 13:18 发表
新政策实行前提交的case依然按照老政策走

移民局最新会议结果,所以已经通过评估的就不用怕了
http://www.aobo.com.au/thread-168733-1-1.html

通过评估但是还没有提交移民申请的要不要担心?我的职业评估结果估计三月中旬-四月中旬出来。。。
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 楼主| 发表于 20-2-2010 13:24:46 | 只看该作者
那报告我看过,是有high risk 这么一说的.
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发表于 20-2-2010 13:26:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 miaomiao890402 于 20-2-2010 13:07 发表
这几天没有好好啃英语,全看英语资料了.新的职业用anzsco,应该跟asco有对应的.反正
偶不指望能出现我的职了,主要看将来各州担了....


看英语资料就是最好的英语复习啦~
表这样了,我刚提交职业评估,他就给我地震~
我晃了好几晃
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发表于 20-2-2010 13:31:40 | 只看该作者
那个职业评估报告我在网站上看过,的确是有写是不是本地需求可以满足市场的之类的评论,个个洲还不一样!有的紧缺,有的不紧缺
有些职业报告年代很久远了,工程师的大部分是新的~
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发表于 20-2-2010 13:33:11 | 只看该作者
原帖由 xiva 于 20-2-2010 13:23 发表

通过评估但是还没有提交移民申请的要不要担心?我的职业评估结果估计三月中旬-四月中旬出来。。。

偶得最尴尬了,评估出来正好赶上5月底6月初,新政很快实施,SOL发布~
晕死~
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发表于 20-2-2010 13:37:51 | 只看该作者
这机构提供的high risk职业共有22个。大家可以对号入座一下。。。。。

231 Air and marine transport professionals
232 Architects, designers, planners and surveyors
233 Engineering professionals
234 Natural and physical science professionals

251 Health diagnostic and promotion professionals
252 Health therapy professionals
253 Medical practitioners
254 Midwifery and nursing professionals

Information and communication technology (ICT) professionals generally showed ‘high use’, with lead time (studying for the occupation) varying between three and four years. Most people (60 per cent or more) working as ICT professionals have the requisite qualifications, and all have been identified as occupations needed to delivery government policies especially in relation to the national broadband network and the digital economy. Only two (262 and 263) indicate strong future growth:
261 Business and systems analysts, and programmers
262 Database and systems administrators, and ICT security specialists
263 ICT network and support professionals

Both minor groups of legal, social and welfare professional occupations also met a number of criteria for ‘risk’ occupations, namely ‘long lead time’ as well as indicating that most people within the occupation have the required qualifications (‘high use’):
271 Legal professionals
272 Social and welfare professionals

Automotive and engineering trades:
321 Automotive electricians and mechanics
322 Fabrication engineering trades workers
323 Mechanical engineering trades workers
324 Panel beaters, and vehicle body builders, trimmers and painters

Construction trades:
331 Bricklayers, and carpenters and joiners
333 Glaziers, plasterers and tilers
334 Plumbers

Electrotechnology and telecommunications trades:
341 Electricians
342 Electronics and Telecommunications Trades Workers


出处
http://www.skillsaustralia.gov.a ... groundpaperone1.pdf
还有个overview,
http://www.skillsaustralia.gov.a ... uturesOverview1.pdf

[ 本帖最后由 seraph77 于 20-2-2010 13:38 编辑 ]
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发表于 20-2-2010 13:41:21 | 只看该作者
261 Business and systems analysts, and programmers
我的职业应该是属于这个,SAP么,我在公司的title就是Business anaylst..但我现在做的职业评估,不是白做了?这个会和以前的ASCO code做mapping么...
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发表于 20-2-2010 13:43:30 | 只看该作者
262 Database and systems administrators, and ICT security specialists
战战兢兢我是这个。。。
我做的职业评估也是这个方向,但是之前强调是ORACLE SPECIALIST了。。。
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发表于 20-2-2010 13:43:53 | 只看该作者
都是大类啊,应该会细分吧~
跟加拿大一样分的那么细,就杯具了
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