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CandyBaby

原帖由 CandyBaby 于 28-5-2010 21:00 发表

                               
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ubuntuhk 威望 +1 对你的言论非常遗憾，你这样的言论只会误导 ... 28-5-2010 22:02

ubuntuhk你怎么回事啊？
我之前回复的如果暴露了某人的隐私你屏蔽我贴子我能理解。
但是对于你的看法有不同的见解为什么还要屏蔽。
来这里上论坛的都是有自己思想、会思考，独立的成年人。
单凭我个人的几句话就能误导别人吗？

我对你屏蔽这个回复非常不理解，麻烦给个合理的答复和解释，谢谢。

你也可以把我刚才的回复另开一贴贴上，让大家投投票。
现在，当我每次回复完，看到首页的自由澳洲、回复下面的言论不代表freeoz立场的小字都觉得好可笑。

michaelchin

When do you need a Legal DNA Paternity Test?
•For Family Law Court matters relating to custody issues
•For Child Support Agency payments
•To change the name on a birth certificate
•For immigration matters
•For wills and estate claims and settlements

A legal paternity case is collected in accordance with the guidelines from the Family Law Court Act 1975. . A Legal paternity case is required for Family Court matters, Child Support Agency, and for changes to the names on a birth certificate. A Legal DNA test consists of a legal affidavit, DNA collection by an authorised collector, and secure ‘chain of custody’ transport of the samples. DNA QLD has access to over 400 pathology collection facilities in Australia. Overseas collections can be done upon request.



DNA QLD will coordinate the legal affidavit and the DNA collection by an authorised collector. The samples are processed at DNA QLD’s Brisbane NATA accredited facility by a Family Law Court reporting scientist.  Samples are processed with a DNA sequencer with the results of a paternity inclusion to 99.9999% or exclusion of 100%.

lhy

敢站出来就是好事。STORMING, 有什么理由怕3人同时去采样？DNA出来，不就看到结果了。干嘛磨磨唧唧，躲躲闪闪？！你看见了孩子照片吗？我看见你们的照片，那双眼睛就和你一个模子出来的。要是你妈妈看见了准说和你小时一个样！别那么不爷们，给自己的孩子一个生理上的父亲你都怕吗？

cxz009

原帖由 wyyo 于 28-5-2010 20:15 发表

                               
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男人如厮，真是不幸。
"没有人愿意打官司，但是我和所有关心的人们一样急切想知道谁是孩子的父亲，这也是我提出法庭申请的原因，因为现在这是唯一可以令对方当事人在限定的期限内同意进行测试的渠道。"--------看似有理，大家细想，如果没有事实，这番话不仅是对自已的侮辱，而且更对女方的侮辱达到了极致；
其次，“因为现在这是唯一可以令对方当事人在限定的期限内同意进行测试的渠道”更是语无伦次，漏洞百出，根本不是女方不同意这个渠道，也不是女方不同意在限定期限内进行测试，恰恰是女方要求当着他们双方的面进行公开公正的测试，而不同意的是男方，孰实孰虚，谁真谁假昭然于世，这种话对孩子公平么。
“至于对方所陈述的一些细节是否符合事实实际，我不想再多说了。清者自明，所谓冷暖自知。晚上能够安稳而卧，临终时能够扪心无愧的，才是我觉得应该选择的生活方式”-----如果确实非男主角之女，那此话尚能成立，那倒是女方无事生非，居心叵测了；如果确是男方之女，那么兽类尚有舔犊之情，而男方视新生骨肉如无物已成事实，如何扪心无愧，正是人至贱则无敌，男主角果然无敌于天下。
“以前在参加哲学版讨论的时候我就提过，我尊重言论自由，但是反对不基于事情而是凭空臆断的对他人利益侵害性的不负责任的言论。”----没有责任，有何资格谈责任论正义，用臆断来急切地想知道谁是孩子的父亲从而隐暗的侮辱女方又是基于何种事实？真正是恶人先告状的人生哲学。因为急切，所以和女方敷衍推拖玩太极，这是挑战大家智力么
“基于大家的关注，我会在测试结果出来以后（如果法庭判决对方必须配合测试的话）在这里发表一个声明，告知大家结果和后续情况。”----感谢科技，至少提供了人类以驱邪避魔的手段，但现在连共同前往做检测都成了问题，可见多么荒谬，如果法庭判决对方不必须配合的话，那等于说就没有结果，此等心机和逻辑，令人折服，不过这又如何能在临终前扪心无愧呢？
朗郎乾坤，尽还如此哓哓之辩，反串弱者，只好感叹大千世界了

一个男人能做到Storming这份上，也算是难得的“人才”了。

圆满的考拉

楼主你就不是个男人，废话一堆，有种就去做，别光JJYY的

Twins妈

看看~~

michaelchin

The authority of a court to order a paternity test is found in section 69W of the Family Law Act 1975. Machinery provisions exist at sub-sections (2) to (5). Sub-section (1) states as follows:

"If the parentage of a child is a question in issue in proceedings under this Act, the court may make an order (a parentage testing order ) requiring a parentage testing procedure to be carried out on a person mentioned in subsection (3) for the purpose of obtaining information to assist in determining the parentage of the child."

yyywww

楼主，我觉得在这里回复没有任何意义。你需要做的事是至少对你的孩子有个交代，何必费尽心思写这些无用的东西。

是个男人就该负起自己的责任！

michaelchin

There must be substantive proceedings before the court. The court will not order parenting testing simply to satisfy the interest or knowledge of a person. The results must have implications for broader questions of parenting or child support.
Paternity must be an issue in the proceedings; that is, there must be established on the evidence, the onus of which is on the applicant, that there is a doubt in the applicant's mind as to paternity, and the doubt must be honest, bona fide and reasonable. Importantly, the applicant need not show that any person is the father of the child. The applicant need only show that there is an honest, bona fide and reasonable doubt as to paternity. Often, evidence of such belief is difficult to corroborate and, consequently, the court will accept that evidence unless the court concludes the applicant's alleged doubt is affected by malice or other extraneous considerations.
The court will not dismiss an application simply because the applicant's evidence is inconsistent. Recollection of such personal and intimate matters is frequently inaccurate.
Whether or not testing is in the best interests of the child. Although, plainly, not a substantive parenting order, Coleman J in Tryon & Clutterbuck [2007] FamCA 580 held that an order for paternity testing is still an order with respect to the welfare of the subject child. Applying such definition to section 64B(2)(i) of the Family Law Act 1975, an order for paternity testing is therefore a "parenting order" for the purposes of the Act. It being so, the paramountcy principle applies – section 60CA of the Act refers. It then behoves the court to consider the matters outlined in section 60CC of the Act so far as they are relevant and so far as any evidence is led to draw an inference or make a finding.
A paternity test is, therefore, not for the asking. Very careful legal considerations must be examined before a client is advised to bring an application. Moral considerations, the purview of many other papers and other philosophies, must come next.

The content of this article is intended to provide a general guide to the subject matter. Specialist advice should be sought about your specific circumstances.

austrip

原帖由 michaelchin 于 28-5-2010 22:22 发表

                               
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There must be substantive proceedings before the court. The court will not order parenting testing simply to satisfy the interest or knowledge of a person. The results must have implications for broad ...

哇，楼上搞法律的？

michaelchin

Our team at DivorceNet.com provides a wide range of advice and guidance on divorce, child custody, visitation and support. We want to provide similar legal and scientific resources for parents of children born out-of-wedlock here at PaternityNet.com.

Out-of-wedlock births are now commonplace. Paternity or parentage cases equal or outnumber divorce filings in many states. If a putative father denies parentage or a mother refuses to acknowledge a man as the child’s biological father, the parent who wishes to establish parentage must file a paternity suit.  

Courts rely on the scientific evidence of DNA paternity testing. If biological fatherhood is in question, your first step is to conduct a paternity test. The court will order testing if the parties refuse. These genetic test results are often conclusive, although courts may allow evidence to the contrary, such as the fact that the putative father had no physical access to the mother around the time of conception.
Custody, child support payments and visitation schedules are often decided after paternity is established, whether contested or uncontested. While parents of children born during marriage have equal rights and responsibilities, many states favor mothers when children are born to unmarried parents. We cover custody, child support and visitation in detail on DivorceNet.com. Consult local counsel about your state's laws.

Please feel free to fully utilize this site's resources. We have the most comprehensive paternity database on the Internet, including web tools,  articles and FAQs, an "Ask the Experts" bulletin board, and links to DNA and paternity testing services.

IDENTIGENE DNA Testing Center, in cooperation with Lawtek, provides DNA testing for paternity establishment. IDENTIGENE DNA Testing Center is accredited by the American Association of Blood Banks and is ISO 17025 certified by the National Forensic Science Technology Center (NFSTC) to be in compliance with its relevant quality standards.

Respectfully,
The Editors of PaternityNet.com

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依然逍遥

不知道大家还记得扣扣的前房东上来说过什么吗？这人根本就是处心积累。现在的目的也是为了能做假DNA，而且他有一定的把握逃过。所以才出来发了这个贴。请问LZ，如果你真的是无辜的，孩子都出生三个多月了，这三个月中扣扣一直在联系你给个说法，你在做什么呢？如果你真的想验了DNA来证明你是清白的，那这三个月中，你又在做什么呢？为什么会等到现在才上来声明呢？如果孩子真的不是你的，为何不在扣扣发贴后不第一时间联系扣扣做DNA测试，然后再上来这里发（一点回复）来沉清事实呢？请回答！

michaelchin

DNA Testing
If the putative father denies that he is the father or is not sure, DNA tests based on a cheek swab conducted on him, the mother, and the child can indicate a probability of paternity. The tests can exclude a man who is not the biological father and show the likelihood of paternity if he is not excluded.

DNA testing has become the most powerful test for determining paternity and is admissible as evidence in paternity trials. The percentage of probability varies from state to state, but it is usually from 95 to 99 percent. That means that if the test determines that the probability is that percentage or higher, paternity is presumed. The burden is on the putative father to rebut the presumption, a very difficult task.

xm2w

楼上的简单解释一下吧，太多名词了

michaelchin

Refusing the DNA Test
Most states have laws that give courts the power to order the putative father to submit to DNA testing. You can be found in civil contempt for refusal to obey a court order. This can mean a fine and/or jail time.

Paternity can be established by default when the putative father fails to attend a court hearing or go for testing after he was properly served with notice. Paternity can also be established in some states by publication of the putative father's name in the newspaper. Check with an attorney in your state about what happens if you refuse to take the test.

流氓兔2007

不错 澳洲的法律 不错

speedfan

原帖由 扣扣 于 28-5-2010 20:53 发表

                               
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我才看这个帖子，我不知道Storming的原帖子写了什么，也许很多字

但我知道DNA的测试结果很简单

你、我和童童一起做DNA取样，然后把报告贴上来！

我很赞同，有人处心积虑的把事情搞复杂，必定有他背后的目的。

michaelchin

俺不是专家，俺的理解是他可以选择不做，但法庭会默认他是父亲

michaelchin

大概google了一下，发现在澳大利亚貌似男人没啥人权
发现了一个专门为男人维权的网站

依然逍遥

我敢断定，新足上面那个发什么精子和卵子的人绝对是你！如果你真的无辜，决不会发这样的贴来侮辱人家女孩子。而且一个有点良知的人也不会在人家弱小女子的痛苦中上来泼这样的污水！
最后请你三思，在澳洲（不是ZG）如果你真的想用作假来逃避责任，最后你会输得更惨！！！

michaelchin

这里貌似作假的风险很高，貌似要坐牢
一旦进去，嘿嘿，菊花台啊菊花台，好可怕

Microhard

原帖由 拖拉机 于 28-5-2010 16:22 发表

                               
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成龙 老虎伍兹 陈冠希 。。。。都是在事后一段时间，才敢站在媒体前承认！

这和lz的情况完全是两码事吧！

michaelchin

不知道澳洲监狱是不是单独关中国人
有些国家是这样的
中国人和鬼佬关一起很惨很惨很惨，惨绝人寰据说

speedfan

才刷新一下， CandyBaby就被封了。
你说的有些话确实很有道理
这里给你叫声好。

qzd163

对，英式法律对作假处罚很严厉的。
你可以犯错，但不要作假。

流氓兔2007

原帖由 speedfan 于 28-5-2010 23:01 发表

                               
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才刷新一下， CandyBaby就被封了。
你说的有些话确实很有道理
这里给你叫声好。

me too

cerruti1881_sh

楼主就是不想验，因为他清楚的很，孩子就是他的。
为什么不想验？验了就要付钱，心里不爽。
为什么不爽？ 估计是给女人逼急了。
为什么给女人逼急了？估计他不想要，女人非要。
确实心里不爽，如果自己不想要，但是孩子在别人身上。这个就是做男人的悲哀。
所以，为了别让心里不爽，就别让鸡巴太爽。

沐晨

这个法律很好。

依然逍遥

原帖由 michaelchin 于 28-5-2010 22:58 发表

                               
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这里貌似作假的风险很高，貌似要坐牢
一旦进去，嘿嘿，菊花台啊菊花台，好可怕

哈哈，现在我倒希望他做假了，虽然扣扣会一时痛苦一段时间。只要真理在扣扣这边，大家支持扣扣坚持下去，最后终会大快人心的！！1

michaelchin

A study conducted in Australian prisons found that prison rape was experienced by at least 10% of male prisoners aged 18-25, with a small number of these victims reporting sexual assault on a daily basis.