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[Others] 我建议,请版主组织专人设立“英语疑难句子解析”板块!

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发表于 12-10-2008 17:37:11 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式

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本人学英语从初一开始到现在已经23年了,期间考过TOEFL,GRE,IELTS等,曾背过大量的单词,看过无数的英文材料,但惭愧的是,尽管英文占用了我青春大量的宝贵时间,效果却一直很差,我想这就是中国人学英语的悲哀吧,在没有语言环境的情况下,浪费无数时间却收效甚微,作为过来人,从而也感觉国人学英语的条件是多么可怕,我说可怕是因为我无法想像如果把我过去23年里学英语的时间用来研究我的专业和兴趣又会是什么样一个状况,而国内普遍现状是大批的人花大量的宝贵时间大笔的成本往低效率的英语学习里扔,无数的英语教学机构不仅应运而生更是赚取了大笔财富。

到澳洲来五个多月了,感觉这几个月的时间进步飞速,刚来时听力差得一塌糊涂,口语稍微复杂一点就无法准确表达,更别说表达得象中文那样精准漂亮了,看新闻困难到一天下来也看不懂几篇,经常是看着看着看不动思想开小差,经过几个月的适应和提高,现在电视上的听力基本上能懂70%,日常面对面或者电话交流能达90%,阅读能比较快速地进行。但依然感觉离完全融入这个语言环境还需要很长的路要走。网上可能有朋友认为我们移民要完全把英语学成自己的母语一样不太可能,但我认为,只要我们用心去做,凡事皆有可能。

我认为英语版块应该发挥很大的一个作用就是帮助提高英文使用者的水平,我一直觉得,如果我们把日常遇到的英语难句都搞懂的话,对英语水平的提高应该帮助很大,事实上平日遇到疑难很多,可无处释疑成了一直困扰我的问题。

因此,我建议,版主是否能组织设立一个英文疑难解析版块,坛友积极参与,有水平高的专家坐镇,帮助答疑以提高英文水平。

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vivi0905 + 30 我很赞同!
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ritaclin + 30 很好的建议!邀请lz来做答疑特邀嘉宾^_^
ubuntuhk + 30 非常好的建议。

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发表于 13-10-2008 02:53:30 | 只看该作者

回复 #1 新生活主张 的帖子

这个建议不错
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发表于 13-10-2008 19:46:54 | 只看该作者
现在不是也有很多人遇到问题就过来问的吗?楼主既然这么积极,不妨效仿毛遂自荐
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发表于 13-10-2008 20:22:01 | 只看该作者
很好的建议,不知lz是否愿意做本版的特邀答疑嘉宾,也顺便跟大家分享一下你的学习心得?
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 楼主| 发表于 13-10-2008 22:16:33 | 只看该作者

回复 #4 ritaclin 的帖子

惭愧啊!我的英语还很弱,今天第一天正式上班,跟几个澳洲本地人在一起工作,练了一天的听力,估计再过年把我才敢受邀当嘉宾,现在我只有问问题的资格。
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发表于 14-10-2008 10:54:40 | 只看该作者
Right on~! lz, pop ur questions here n I'm sure there're ppl who will attend to 'em
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发表于 14-10-2008 11:22:50 | 只看该作者
搞个集中贴就可以了, 还设什么板块。 英语板块人都不常来的。
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发表于 14-10-2008 22:44:12 | 只看该作者

good idea!

agree with ritaclin and naughtybaby!
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 楼主| 发表于 14-10-2008 23:14:17 | 只看该作者
ok, 我先贴几句在这里,大家看看能不能懂,全是从Sydney Morning Herald上摘下来我没完全看懂的句子,有些句子虽然能够理解全句的意思,但是不明白其中有些部分的用法:
2.        "Good money is coming in or has been promised. The big end of town is responding positively," one senior Liberal figure said.
3.        A 16-year-old girl from Pyrmont and a 16-year-old girl from Marrickville have been refused bail and arte due to face Parramatta Children's Court today.
5.        "She is worse than I am when it comes to TV. I like taking her clothes - dresses most of the time, shoes, cardigans and always scarves."
6.        "These girls see their friends as their most precious resource. It is now peer pressure on steroids.
8.        "She is literally on it from the minute she gets home from school to the minute she goes to bed, and we try to squeeze some homework in," she said.
9.        "Back in 1988, Cleo sealed sections were pretty important," Dr Turnbull said.
10.        Music commentator Glenn A. Baker said that while music aimed at teenage girls had always been manipulated, it had become perfected "almost to a science" over the past 20 years, thanks to the rise of girl bands and television talent quests such as the Idol franchise.
"There is not a lot that is original in teen popular music any more," Baker said.
"Never before in our long history of popular music has there been a more effective understanding - an almost scientific understanding - of what a teen audience is likely to respond to.
"The overall quality is polished and glossy, although it might have lost a few points in the heart and soul factor."
11.        As the World Health Organisation questioned Beijing's handling of the crisis, premier Wen Jiabao appeared on state television promising to head off further incidents.
12.        The scandal stems from the practice of adding industrial chemical melamine, normally used to make plastics, to watered-down milk to boost apparent protein levels.
13.        Shigeru Omi, Western Pacific director of the UN's WHO, on Sunday raised concerns the matter was not reported earlier.
14.        The blast went off just half a kilometre from the Pakistan Prime Minister's residence where the President, Asif Ali Zardari, was dining with dignitaries.
15.        The council engineer, Martin Drake, said the release of the coroner's report played no part in the timing of the roadwork.
16.        After belting out 'Bette Davis Eyes' on the Sept. 21 show, 17-year-old Brooke was showered with praise by the judges.
17.        I think it's just the way it is as with most competitions that have to depend on public voting. Remember ricky lee? it was also a shock to everyone when she got voted out when she was consistently impressive in all her performances. as the judges say, a good performance is never a guarantee!
18.        it's because the teeny boppers love him.
19.        Wake up people all shows are fixed because at the end of the day its all about the $$$$$ and if a show isnt making $$$$ then the show is changed/fixed so that it makes the $$$$$, just wait a few years and see, :- remember that show idol well now we know it was fixed.
20.        "World championships being such an intense race, a one-day race, they're normally on pretty unforgiving courses and if you are having an ordinary day there's really nowhere to hide," Bannan told AAP.
21.        The course was expected to suit Davis and Rogers in particular, but they struggled and the cracking pace from the 60km mark dashed sprinter Robbie McEwen's chances of powering over the line had the race ended in a bunch finish.
22.        The under-23 men were considered Australia's best chance of winning a medal based on individual performances this season but they fell short after riding defensively through the first part of the road race and missing the major attack.
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发表于 16-10-2008 15:23:13 | 只看该作者
The big end of town

有《The big end of town》这么一本书,翻译为《大底镇》,主要描述澳大利亚经济方面的问题,不知道原文所指是否和这个信息有关?

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发表于 16-10-2008 16:00:49 | 只看该作者
These girls see their friends as their most precious resource. It is now peer pressure on steroids.
“steroids -- 类固醇”,这里可译为“兴奋剂”?

在翻译上我觉得采取直译即可,但是要完全理解这种说法,需要更多上下文信息,我查到下文是:Most of these kids are spiritual anorexics in that they have a hole in their self where they do not believe in anything。这些孩子大多是精神厌食症患者,因为他们自身有一个困境,他们不相信任何东西。They come to believe that their worth is derived from the number of possessions they have.他们开始相信,他们的价值来源于所拥有的财富有多少。

总的来说,单独给出这些句子,个别单词短语确实很难理解……

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发表于 16-10-2008 21:47:16 | 只看该作者
看文章总会遇到新词新用法的,没有人知道所有的语言用法,但是如果你能理解文章,特别是不熟悉的地方的上下文,能猜出来这个用法的意思,那么不妨多看两遍这句话是从什么角度说的,对以后都会有帮助。很多词组可以用英汉词典查的到,特别是双解带例句的,对理解一个词或词组很有帮助。如果只是那种一个英语单词对应几个汉字解释的词典(比如有些电子词典),急用的时候可以,拿来学英语可以说没什么用处(死记硬背单词书是一样的!)。

试着看几句话,有些看得懂,有些看不懂要乱猜,希望后来的同学轻点拍砖。

1.        1呢?1睡过点,翘课了……

2.        "Good money is coming in or has been promised. The big end of town is responding positively," one senior Liberal figure said.
the big end of town,没见过,乱猜一下吧,有个big,有个end,估计是大多数人的意思。google一下看看能找到什么:
两则新闻:http://www.smh.com.au/news/world ... /1222540246531.html
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/08/01/1091298576869.html
似乎差不多就是多数人,好像还可以引申一下,多数人、普通人、平民百姓(相对于少数的有米阶级)。

还有很多是关于那本叫做THE BIG END OF TOWN的书,介绍过去100年澳洲市场的主流和趋势等等,跟上面猜的意思差不多。
书的介绍如下:http://www.theage.com.au/article ... .html?from=storyrhs
想看这本书的话点这里:http://books.google.com.au/books ... &ct=result#PPA6,M1

顺便鄙视一下把书名译成《大底镇》的人,难道把书名看成THE BIG END TOWN了,没看到那个 OF 吗?

3.        A 16-year-old girl from Pyrmont and a 16-year-old girl from Marrickville have been refused bail and arte due to face Parramatta Children's Court today.
arte due to,没见过,不过我认为是are due to拼错了

5.        "She is worse than I am when it comes to TV. I like taking her clothes - dresses most of the time, shoes, cardigans and always scarves."
taking her clothes,要看上下文的吧,从后半句话来看her clothes就是指衣服,拿她的衣服,不知道什么意思

6.        "These girls see their friends as their most precious resource. It is now peer pressure on steroids.
steroids 类固醇,可能是指激素、荷尔蒙之类吧?

8.        "She is literally on it from the minute she gets home from school to the minute she goes to bed, and we try to squeeze some homework in," she said.
on it,上网、上站、上论坛;literally,可以查一下字典,表示绝对的、确实的、毫不夸张的。

9.        "Back in 1988, Cleo sealed sections were pretty important," Dr Turnbull said.
Cleo是个女性杂志,cleo sealed sections可能是指其特色版面吧,这个链接可能对理解有点帮助:http://au.answers.yahoo.com/ques ... 080509192314AAXkWQE
cleo杂志 http://www.cleo.com.au/Cleo-Magazine.htm
这几句话原文如下,话题对我来说比较陌生,希望后来的同学能够进一步解释:http://www.essentialbaby.com.au/ ... 2-4lf0.html?page=-1

10.        Music commentator Glenn A. Baker said that while music aimed at teenage girls had always been manipulated, it had become perfected "almost to a science" over the past 20 years, thanks to the rise of girl bands and television talent quests such as the Idol franchise.
"There is not a lot that is original in teen popular music any more," Baker said.
"Never before in our long history of popular music has there been a more effective understanding - an almost scientific understanding - of what a teen audience is likely to respond to.
"The overall quality is polished and glossy, although it might have lost a few points in the heart and soul factor."

music aimed at teenage girls had always been manipulated给十几岁少女听的音乐一直就受到人为干预。这几句话是将随着对青春期少女的科学研究深化,人们在谱写针对这一市场群体的流行音乐时刻意应用能够引起她们兴趣的元素。

就看这几句吧,还是建议楼主多用带例句的双解词典,平时再多用一些理解和分析的方法,应该慢慢会好,毕竟学语言不是背几个单词几天就能见成效的。

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 楼主| 发表于 19-10-2008 19:56:45 | 只看该作者
最近我上班有点忙,所以没怎么过来看,发现楼上几位已给出了一些解释,非常好!我发现把原来没弄懂的东西搞懂了感觉非常好! ,下次继续啊!
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发表于 20-10-2008 16:47:16 | 只看该作者
3.        A 16-year-old girl from Pyrmont and a 16-year-old girl from Marrickville have been refused bail and arte due to face Parramatta Children's Court today.
你划错了, due to是个短语, 意思是由于; 起因于; 归功于
5.        "She is worse than I am when it comes to TV. I like taking her clothes - dresses most of the time, shoes, cardigans and always scarves."
就是买的意思。 我要买她的衣服。。。

8.        "She is literally on it from the minute she gets home from school to the minute she goes to bed, and we try to squeeze some homework in," she said.
she is on it 就是她在做某事的意思。 加个literally, 就是强调后面的minute, 时间都是以分钟来算的意思。

10.        Music commentator Glenn A. Baker said that while music aimed at teenage girls had always been manipulated, it had become perfected "almost to a science" over the past 20 years, thanks to the rise of girl bands and television talent quests such as the Idol franchise.
(music aimed at teenage girls)这个是主语  针对年轻女孩子的音乐总是被利用操纵。。。

感觉lz的语法还不是很好,倒也不单单是习惯用语。

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