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发表于 28-9-2006 00:25:58 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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今天中介告诉我,背调出问题了。<br>
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原因是调查我的工作经历的时候,人事部的人居然说找不到我工作的记录。<br>
<br>
今天1月从华为离职的,在华为工作了6年,居然查不到我的工作记录,好可悲。<br>
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大家能帮我出出主意吗?<br>
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我准备打电话给华为的人事,看能不能查到工作记录,再联系以前的老领导,准备多提供几个证明人,以防证明人联系不上;此外,还准备投诉背调人员没有尽职,因为我的工作经历中是详细列出各阶段的项目经理的,即使在人事找不到我,也应该找其他相关人确认。<br>
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以下是VO的信:<br>
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• When officers called the office number provided by you of Huawei Technologies, they were referred to the HR Department in Shenzen who failed to find your record on their database<br>
• When officers called the Shanghai Office of Huawei they were informed that, as you had left they were unable to verify the details of your employment. They also informed us that they were not sure if your referee was employed in their office<br>
• Hence your claimed work experience is unverifiable.
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 楼主| 发表于 28-9-2006 00:28:40 | 只看该作者

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VO是 fee lee。<br>
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我准备把流程走通以后,直接发邮件给VO投诉那个Australian Immigration Officers in Shanghai<br>
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Telephone checks conducted by Australian Immigration Officers in Shanghai in August 2006 revealed the following :
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发表于 28-9-2006 01:09:28 | 只看该作者

Re:请教:我,背调出问题了!!

这么重要的事应该提前做好准备啊 祝你好运
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发表于 28-9-2006 01:38:49 | 只看该作者

Re:请教:我,背调出问题了!!

背调人员就那么主观的.VO有叫你补料吗?
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发表于 28-9-2006 02:01:00 | 只看该作者

Re:请教:我,背调出问题了!!

今天1月从华为离职的,在华为工作了6年,居然查不到我的工作记录<br>
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无语。。。。<br>
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lz,和VO好好解释一下,抓住这次机会!<br>
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发表于 28-9-2006 18:36:59 | 只看该作者

Re:请教:我,背调出问题了!!

Forget about agent!<br>
You can do that now and make sure there is no missing this time!<br>
Time is not so urgent. To get enough and right evidence docs is first thing to consider now.<br>
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Good Luck!<br>
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发表于 28-9-2006 11:51:17 | 只看该作者

Re:请教:我,背调出问题了!!

LZ怎么没把最关键的HR搞定啊,应该事先打好招呼的,即使是真的,也要做好应付准备
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 楼主| 发表于 28-9-2006 11:57:28 | 只看该作者

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公司员工2万人,人员流动频繁,人事部人也多,也不可能混熟。<br>
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背调出问题以后,如果申诉的话,VO是让上海重新背调,还是我必须直接提供相关证明?
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发表于 28-9-2006 12:01:57 | 只看该作者

Re:请教:我,背调出问题了!!

按时打发似的发射点法

[[i] 本帖最后由 大富豪 于 14-6-2007 12:38 编辑 [/i]]
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发表于 28-9-2006 02:10:13 | 只看该作者

Re:请教:我,背调出问题了!!

准备充足的证据证明你的工作经历, 劳动合同、工资条、领导及客户的证明信等, 我的背调和你查不多,05年7月份的fn 139 acs, 就因为背调出问题,等到现在没结果。
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发表于 28-9-2006 02:26:12 | 只看该作者

Re:请教:我,背调出问题了!!

他们没找到你的推荐人啊。楼主找找原因吧。
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发表于 28-9-2006 11:21:10 | 只看该作者

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提供你的劳动合同等证据,相信你会胜利的。<P><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td><OBJECT codeBase='<a target=_blank href=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab>http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab</a>#version=4,0,2,0' classid='clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000' width='48' height='48' Id='Audible54879137271'><PARAM NAME=movie VALUE='../plug-ins/audio/swf/07.swf'><param name=menu value=false><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME=play VALUE=false><param name='wmode' value='transparent'><embed src='../plug-ins/audio/swf/07.swf' quality='high' pluginspage='<a target=_blank href=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'>http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'</a> type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='48' height='48'></embed></OBJECT></td><td align='left' style='cursor:hand;' title='鼠标悬停播放' nowrap  onclick='document.Audible54879137271.Play()'>加油喔!</td></tr></table></p>
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发表于 28-9-2006 12:11:58 | 只看该作者

Re:请教:我,背调出问题了!!

LZ准备不充分哦,可能也难怪,公司太大,不过最好还是叫被调的人事再出份书面证明写明原委为什么当时没找到.<br>
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祝你好云~~<br>
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发表于 28-9-2006 12:14:43 | 只看该作者

Re:请教:我,背调出问题了!!

我也已经辞职了,还没做职业评估,看来交上去资料还得凑合找一个。。。。。<br>
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祝楼主好运!做好充分的准备和补救工作,消消气,VO那边也最好不好以投诉的态度去沟通,诚恳地解释清楚就好了。
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发表于 28-9-2006 12:30:33 | 只看该作者

Re:请教:我,背调出问题了!!

一点小经验分享一下<br>
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1.推荐人的推荐信,除了签字外,最好能也盖公司的章<br>
2.工作经历让公司盖章,写上自己的姓名,生日,身份张号码,工作岗位,然后公证一下<br>
3.推荐人的工资单最后能搞到,翻译一下一起放进去,这个到不用公证<br>
4.自己的最近3个月的工资单,翻译一下放进去,不用公证<br>
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我当时投资料的时候是把能准备的资料都给他邮寄过去了!<br>
比较幸运,没有贝雕<br>
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发表于 28-9-2006 13:03:21 | 只看该作者

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hoho,同情啊!关注中!
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发表于 28-9-2006 12:28:51 | 只看该作者

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楼主,赶紧和huawei的人事联系一下吧,看能不能找到工作记录。别急,解决问题要紧。<br>
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不过我还是忍不住愤慨一个,这个huawei怎么能这样的,让人疯狂地干活,离开了竟然就这样?管理有问题啊。
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发表于 28-9-2006 12:56:31 | 只看该作者

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jeffxi很幸运,你是外企知名公司吗? 没有贝雕的原因,是不是也和这个有关系?
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发表于 28-9-2006 13:00:17 | 只看该作者

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还是因为你的材料递的详细全面,没什么好调查的了....
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发表于 28-9-2006 13:53:36 | 只看该作者

Re:请教:我,背调出问题了!!

有没有在hw获得什么奖,把此类证书也提交给VO
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发表于 28-9-2006 14:32:11 | 只看该作者

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jia you ba !
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发表于 28-9-2006 15:54:31 | 只看该作者

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同情楼主。<br>
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华为的人事是不是太不负责了??现在都是电脑管理,要查一个是否呆在公司过还不简单??像华为这样的人事办事的态度应该教育一下。<br>
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现在认真办事的人少呀
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发表于 28-9-2006 14:37:26 | 只看该作者

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我想LZ的动作应该要快。加油。<br>
等你的好消息。
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 楼主| 发表于 28-9-2006 18:57:58 | 只看该作者

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中介给我的建议还不如我想的多。。。。唉。。。。<br>
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打电话给上海华为,找了一个人事问了一下,态度还算不错,搞清楚了之前的确人事有人接到过电话。她倒是愿意在下次背调的时候帮我一下,可惜下个月就休产假了。<br>
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只好找以前的主管了,看看他有没有熟悉一点的人事,人事部几十号人,不可能个个打上招呼。。。<br>
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华为真的一点人情也没有,说没有义务证明我的工作经历。。。。。。<br>
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发表于 28-9-2006 22:21:20 | 只看该作者

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呵呵,我就不稀罕大公司,大公司薪水是高一些,可是人太多,你能把相关的人统统搞定?我现在就在小公司里,上上下下我都把关系搞好了,包括老板!
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发表于 28-9-2006 16:38:42 | 只看该作者

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干吗辞职了,忍一忍就过去了,只希望你辞职的时候没有和他们闹别扭,我认识好多人在辞职的时候把人事经理得罪了,有的人自己还不知道,人事经理已经恨不得派忍者去杀他了,好不容易有机会他才不会放过,要是人事经理或者公司大佬得罪了估计也没有人敢给你证明,毕竟你可以去澳洲他们还得还房贷。
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发表于 28-9-2006 19:16:50 | 只看该作者

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强烈谴责这个剥削大好青年的华为公司,做的太绝了,不留余地。<br>
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想当年,98年毕业,华为到我校大张期鼓的招人,没有请我们系老师吃饭,遭到我系老师全力抵制,不允许学生去华为公司,更加上上届毕业的师兄的血泪控诉,要求回学校重新再分配,我最终还是没有选择年薪X万的华为市场部,否则我就掉进大染缸了。<P><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td><OBJECT codeBase='<a target=_blank href=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab>http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab</a>#version=4,0,2,0' classid='clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000' width='48' height='48' Id='Audible18143365812'><PARAM NAME=movie VALUE='../plug-ins/audio/swf/05.swf'><param name=menu value=false><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME=play VALUE=false><param name='wmode' value='transparent'><embed src='../plug-ins/audio/swf/05.swf' quality='high' pluginspage='<a target=_blank href=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'>http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash'</a> type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='48' height='48'></embed></OBJECT></td><td align='left' style='cursor:hand;' title='鼠标悬停播放' nowrap  onclick='document.Audible18143365812.Play()'>一定要幸福喔!</td></tr></table></p>
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发表于 29-9-2006 08:05:57 | 只看该作者

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得罪人了!
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发表于 30-9-2006 23:02:59 | 只看该作者

Re:背调出问题了(38楼给VO的回信大家看看有没有问题,谢谢。)

祝福楼主。<br>
看了你的信,写得清晰明了,应该没有什么问题。<br>
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 楼主| 发表于 30-9-2006 12:51:15 | 只看该作者

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给VO写了封信解释。。。。大家看有没有问题。<br>
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Dear Mr or Ms Fee Lee<br>
<br>
I received your letter forwarded by my agent in September 27, 2006.<br>
<br>
I reply your letter to explain the things and provide more referees, as quick as possible. <br>
<br>
Your letter said:<br>
“Telephone checks conducted by Australian Immigration Officers in Shanghai in August 2006 revealed the following : <br>
? When officers called the office number provided by you of Huawei Technologies, they were referred to the HR Department in Shenzhen who failed to find your record on their database <br>
? When officers called the Shanghai Office of Huawei they were informed that, as you had left they were unable to verify the details of your employment. They also informed us that they were not sure if your referee was employed in their office <br>
? Hence your claimed work experience is unverifiable.”<br>
<br>
To point 1, I call the HR department in Shenzhen, and they answer me that they can not offer the telephone query about employee of Huawei, because Huawei think the employee information is business secret. Huawei HR also tell me that, if official letter of embassy/company/government is provided, they can provide certificate with HR cachet. <br>
All above situation is unknown to me before because I am familiar with HR Department.<br>
I have get certificate with Huawei HR cachet with the help of my old workmate in Shenzhen, now the certificate is in express delivery to shanghai. I will send the certificate to make the notarization once I receive it. After that, I will deliver it to you as soon as possible.<br>
The certificate write my name, personal identity card number, the date join Huawei, the date leave Huawei, the work I do in Huawei, and most important: HR Department cachet.<br>
<br>
To Point2, For the same secrecy reason, the Huawei HR department in shanghai can not offer the telephone query too. Huawei shanghai is the subsidiary company of Huawei Shenzhen. I have called them for the detail progress of telephone check. They told me that, when Australian Immigration Officers asked whether the referee (my old project manager) is employed by Huawei, they doubt the telephone is from the compete company, so they said they can not confirm with bad manner. <br>
In fact, if Australian Immigration Officers call the referee’s office number or mobile, they can find him easily. I have called my referee, he told me he never get any call from embassy. What a pity, if he got, he can help the officer to contact the HR Department and explain all.<br>
<br>
It seems that there are some terrible communication problems between Australian Immigration Officers and Huawei HR Department.<br>
<br>
I think it is a better solution to provide more referees while providing the certificate with Huawei HR cachet. Here is my Referees List below.<br>
<br>
Referees List:<br>
9个证明人的列表省略<br>
<br>
P.S. <br>
1, The office phone number is direct line. You can use telephone exchange too. This may be helpful for immigration officer to confirm the phone number is Huawei's number.<br>
For Example:<br>"+86 21 61143565"(Office) equals to "+86 21 68644808 43565"(Office)<br>"+86 21 61143461"(Office) equals to "+86 21 68644808 43461"(Office)<br>"+86 21 61143605"(Office) equals to "+86 21 68644808 43605"(Office)<br>
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2, The office phone number of referee is the newest, but change office is possible, if happens:<br>
if the referee is in shanghai, please call "+86 21 68644808 0" for the extend number of the referee; <br>
if the referee is in Shenzhen, please call "+86 21 28780808" for the extend number of the referee; <br>
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I resigned from Huawei in January 18 2006, and join the ×××××× Optical Network Inc(<a target=_blank href=http://www.>http://www.</a>××××××.com.cn/eshow.asp). My baby was born in March 3 2005, when she grow older and older, I think I should spend more time with her, ×××××× provide me much easy work and much private time, that’s the reason I left Huawei.<br>
I notified my agent Ms Pin Yi of my resign event when I changed work and asked her should I add some document for immigration. She just told me to wait her message. About July 2006, when I call Well Trend United Inc again, they told me Ms Pin Yi has resigned from Well Trend United Inc about April 2006, but neither she nor Well Trend United Inc notified me. <br>
In September 22 2006, Well Trend United Inc asked me to sign a file to change my agent to Mr Xiang Feng, but they should do this work half a year ago.<br>
That’s the reason why I did not hand my resign & new company information to you.<br>
And that is why I write this letters to you myself instead of by agent too. I do not know whether I should trust my agent.<br>
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From October 1 to October 7, It is National Holiday in China, so the notarization department and many government/company departments do not work during the holiday. There should be enough time to prepare the certificate before Response Day(October 23, 2006), but I think I should notify you I have lost one week before the Response Day for force majeure.<br>
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I welcome the Australian Immigration Officers to do more check and go to my company to check my work.<br>
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My office number: 略<br>
My mobile: 略<br>
×××××× Company Address: 略<br>
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Australian Immigration Officers in shanghai also can go to Huawei shanghai to do some check too. Because I have resigned, they can ask my referee about my work in Huawei. Huawei shanghai has many office addresses. My Referees’ offices are all in No.27 XinJinQiao Road Shanghai, but from my experiences, they often come to other two office address for company business.<br>
So I list all addresses for reference.<br>
1: Floor9, JinMao building, No.88, Century road, Pu Dong New District, Shanghai(上海浦东新区世纪大道88号金茂大厦9楼)<br>
2: No 27, Building No3,4,5,7, XinJinQiao Road, Pu Dong New District, Shanghai(上海浦东新区新金桥路27号,3、4、5、7号楼)<br>
3: Nong 91, No 98, E San Road, Pu Dong New District, Shanghai (上海浦东新区峨山路91弄98号)<br>
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I also make the certificate of ×××××× with HR cachet.<br>
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Are these information and documents enough? I am not sure. I have less experience and my agent is not very reliable. So I really appreciate you if you can tell me what document I should prepare and what I can do.<br>
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Consider this letter is important for me, so if you have time, please write back a short letter to confirm you have received this letter.<br>
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Thanks for your time to read my letter. <br>
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Yours Sincerely<br>
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