新西兰移民

DDD888

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/busine ... p;objectid=11654891

根据上述连接，说明高水平的software engineer移民到新西兰很少，大多数是和我的工作没有任何竞争的人来移民

clarkli

新西兰大伙都不敢去，怕落个sheep shagger的名声

DDD888

clarkli 发表于 15-6-2016 00:56
新西兰大伙都不敢去，怕落个sheep shagger的名声

The Chinese community in NZ grows very quick.

I recall that at the time I moved to my street 2000, there was very few chinese people there. There are lots of chinese people on my street.

The house price on my street tripled and lots of european moved out to get the money by selling the house. I bought my house 2000 at auction for nzd233,000 and now around at 1 million dollars Of course, I cannot sell the house as we only have one house.

ScientificAmeri

DDD888 发表于 15-6-2016 06:35
The Chinese community in NZ grows very quick.

I recall that at the time I moved t ...

That's exactly the two reasons I won't live in Auckland for long.

ScientificAmeri

Correct, I will leave one more place later for you guys.

语之玫瑰

DDD888 发表于 15-6-2016 06:35
The Chinese community in NZ grows very quick.

I recall that at the time I moved t ...

这个涨幅

ScientificAmeri

语之玫瑰 发表于 15-6-2016 16:13
这个涨幅

Auckland has genuinely been the paradise for property speculators (along with Vancouver across the world), while Australia has banned foreigner buyers, it's still allowed in NZ, as a result, owners like DD888 are confidently looking forward to the double price of houses again during the lifetime.

DDD888

语之玫瑰 发表于 15-6-2016 16:13
这个涨幅

谢谢

另外不多啦，16年涨三倍，上海的房价涨的更厉害

DDD888

ScientificAmeri 发表于 15-6-2016 16:19
Auckland has genuinely been the paradise for property speculators (along with Vancouver across the ...

这价格其实是虚的啦，我家只有这一幢房子，我家打算传给儿子，女儿啦，没有卖掉的意思，所以涨到一亿美元也是毫无意义的，唯一的是要每年多交地税，我是希望政府估价低点，可以少交地税啦

clarkli

房子一卖就能提前退休了

DDD888

clarkli 发表于 15-6-2016 19:49
房子一卖就能提前退休了

我不想退休,要工作到65岁,打算再买幢房子,这样一来儿子,女儿可以各分一幢

DDD888

我用我八年的劳动换一幢房子应该不至于成为攻击的目标啊

我自从来到新西兰这十几年也交了四十多万新西兰元的税也应该算对的起新西兰啦

当年买房子只不过是想有个住的地方啦

ScientificAmeri

DDD888 发表于 15-6-2016 19:30
谢谢

另外不多啦，16年涨三倍，上海的房价涨的更厉害

That's incomparable, China falls in the category along with India/Vietnam, which you'd realize when seeing the housing/income ratio worldwide ranking.  

ScientificAmeri

DDD888 发表于 15-6-2016 19:33
这价格其实是虚的啦，我家只有这一幢房子，我家打算传给儿子，女儿啦，没有卖掉的意思，所以涨到一亿美元 ...

But not most Aucklanders are like you (if so, bubble wouldn't exist). You can find a report in NZ herald saying "according to stats, Aucklanders on average earn more from home than work".

Indeed almost every Chinese migrant I know in Auckland has at least 2~3 houses, which is the reason why the prices once outstripped Sydney and I have to leave.

ScientificAmeri

clarkli 发表于 15-6-2016 19:49
房子一卖就能提前退休了

So many ways are there if you dream of a life without working.

But I enjoy working, not just because of the money, or I would apply for unemployment benefits.

ScientificAmeri

DDD888 发表于 15-6-2016 20:56
我用我八年的劳动换一幢房子应该不至于成为攻击的目标啊

我自从来到新西兰这十几年也交了四十多万新西兰 ...

Let's be clear:

at the moment, average price in Auckland is $960K, and median income is $50k or $30k (not so sure, as the way of statistic tends to be controversial, but anyway should be <=50K),

Give that a person has to pay the cost of living everyday (many goods in NZ are more expensive than that in Australia, including the gas), tell me how many years it takes?

Then think about yourself, how "fair" it is?

The one should be criticized is the policy maker, not you, who is just a player.  Or should we say American people are less interested in property speculation due to their integrity?

DDD888

ScientificAmeri 发表于 16-6-2016 06:17
Let's be clear:

at the moment, average price in Auckland is $960K, and median income is $50k  ...

Thank you for your understanding

DDD888

ScientificAmeri 发表于 16-6-2016 06:13
So many ways are there if you dream of a life without working.

But I enjoy working, not just be ...

Me too

That is one of the reason that I want to work till age 65

语之玫瑰

DDD888 发表于 15-6-2016 20:56
我用我八年的劳动换一幢房子应该不至于成为攻击的目标啊

我自从来到新西兰这十几年也交了四十多万新西兰 ...

没呀...那是羡慕你下手早
2000年我还在中学里呢...

DDD888

ScientificAmeri 发表于 16-6-2016 06:07
That's incomparable, China falls in the category along with India/Vietnam, which you'd realize whe ...

Why not?

I met a gentleman in swimming pool two weeks ago, whose age around 70 years old and was a construction engineer in Shanghai. He told me that he bought a place for around 2 million chinese yuan 2003 and sold it for 8 million chinese yuan 2015 in Shanghai. He used money to buy a house in Hillcrest, NorthShore. He told me that was not a big deal for him to buy a house in north shore. :-)

He told me he earned 7,000 chinese yuan each month 1997 which was the year I left China. At that time I earned around 2,000 chinese yuan each month in Shanghai.

DDD888

语之玫瑰 发表于 16-6-2016 10:25
没呀...那是羡慕你下手早
2000年我还在中学里呢...

Thanks

My family need a place to live in 2000 since I switched a job and increased salary from nzd30,000 to nzd60,000 per year after working in nz for about a year. That was a good experience to switch job. It was not a big deal for me to buy a house at nzd233,000 for salary nzd60,000 If I donot spend any money, I can pay off the house in 4 years. Of course, everything cost money in nz. Thus the payoff time took around 8 years which I consider a great achievement for myself.

ScientificAmeri

DDD888 发表于 16-6-2016 07:01
Thank you for your understanding

Thanks for not regarding me as a brainwashed fool.

ScientificAmeri

DDD888 发表于 16-6-2016 07:02
Me too

That is one of the reason that I want to work till age 65

Other than Tech itself, working itself is a enjoyment of team play, from social point of view.

ScientificAmeri

DDD888 发表于 16-6-2016 11:05
Why not?

I met a gentleman in swimming pool two weeks ago, whose age around 70 years old and  ...

http://www.numbeo.com/property-investment/rankings.jsp

You see this ranking first, before being able to understand why developing countries are different.

DDD888

ScientificAmeri 发表于 16-6-2016 15:50
Other than Tech itself, working itself is a enjoyment of team play, from social point of view.

I will be very happy that if someone use the software I wrote and generate value. If by doing this, I can earn money, this will make me more happy.

DDD888

ScientificAmeri 发表于 16-6-2016 15:52
http://www.numbeo.com/property-investment/rankings.jsp

You see this ranking first, before being ...

What did you try to say?

The only thing I see is the number 1 city not affordable is 1        Shenzhen, China, 4        Hong Kong, Hong Kong
5        Beijing, China 6        Shanghai, China

113        Auckland, New Zealand
Auckland is very affordable

ScientificAmeri

DDD888 发表于 16-6-2016 17:35
I will be very happy that if someone use the software I wrote and generate value. If by doing this ...

That's true, however if working at home, you miss the chance of real social activity, especially within a team. Overtime, you would inadvertently be more attached to your family. By contrast, through years of teamwork I don't feel family is such fun or important, so does the private treasure. Believe it or not, participating teamwork would facilitate your wisdom/enlightenment, ultimately realizing the sense of Zen.

Along with some other social scientist, I discourage working from home.

DDD888

ScientificAmeri 发表于 16-6-2016 17:41
That's true, however if working at home, you miss the chance of real social activity, especially w ...

Every person is unique. You can continue your office work as you wish.

ScientificAmeri

DDD888 发表于 16-6-2016 17:46
Every person is unique. You can continue your office work as you wish.

You words make me feel like that, first, it sounds like my wife, who is an typical, unenlightened Chinese, and who takes family life/private treasure the most, thus suffering.

Secondly I already found not few App programmers nowadays working from home like you, in the recent 2 firms I've worked, those App programmers were always contracted working from home, unlike us hardware/firmware engineers need to work with equipment in office. I reckon the former lost a lot in the life. Some scholars already addressed the psychologically negative impacts from such work style.

You can be as confident, as my wife, which however doesn't change the fact you are suffering... never acknowledge, but it does happen. As a result I'm always happier than my wife~~

DDD888

ScientificAmeri 发表于 16-6-2016 18:08
You words make me feel like that, first, it sounds like my wife, who is an typical, unenlightened  ...

Thank you for sharing your thought.