新西兰移民

ScientificAmeri

DDD888 发表于 16-6-2016 18:15
Thank you for sharing your thought.

Glad to see your open-minded stance to what I pointed out. After all you are a man, compared to my wife.

In fact, I didn't comprehended those taught from Zen until I arrived in NZ, after which I did feel liberated and truly happy.

The day-to-day work is just the way of experiencing Zen, previously I cared about my reputation if the boss or other colleagues look down upon me, and took the project development a burden, fearing failures. But now I don't mind anything, but dealing with any stuff "just the stuff I do" by nature, and everything becomes smooth and easy, conversely I enjoy facing technical issues, which is the fun of life.

I feel nobody is able to upset me or hinder the peace in my heart, even if you "try to kill me".

I guess you may not understand my last sentence.

levine

nz房子涨得这么厉害。楼主以前怎么不投资房子呢。比写代码挣钱呀。

sdcmc

DDD888 发表于 16-6-2016 18:15
Thank you for sharing your thought.

thanks you for sharing your thought

DDD888

levine 发表于 16-6-2016 20:39
nz房子涨得这么厉害。楼主以前怎么不投资房子呢。比写代码挣钱呀。

我在前面已经说了

当年买房子只不过是想有个住的地方啦

另外买房子也有可能跌呀

ScientificAmeri

levine 发表于 16-6-2016 20:39
nz房子涨得这么厉害。楼主以前怎么不投资房子呢。比写代码挣钱呀。

Does the following data make sense?


        Total Population        Chinese population        Percentage
Auckland        1454300        70491        4.80%
Wellington        398300                1.70%
Christchurch        387800        6822        1.70%
Dunedin        125800        1422        1.10%
Hamilton        188400        3504        1.86%
                       
                       
Sydney        4921000        146853        2.90%
Melbourne        4529500                2.30%
Brisbane        2308700        20972        0.9%
Perth        2021200        7681        0.38%
Adelaide        1304631                1.30%
Darwin        136245        789        0.58%

sdcmc

ScientificAmeri 发表于 17-6-2016 19:43
Does the following data make sense?

布村 2萬華人?

ScientificAmeri

sdcmc 发表于 17-6-2016 20:03
布村 2萬華人?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisbane#Demographics

Indeed, it's clearly shown the tendency of NZ. After all Australian government are more or less protecting its local residents, while NZ is still taking the open-door stance.

sdcmc

ScientificAmeri 发表于 17-6-2016 20:07
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisbane#Demographics

Indeed, it's clearly shown the tendency o ...

看來那個不準確, WIKI很多都不經驗證的, 而且上面寫的本身也自相矛盾.

http://brisbane.chineseconsulate.org/chn/lqqk/t843432.htm

http://www.renkou.org.cn/countries/aodaliya/2014/531.html

都顯示大約9-10萬. 這個才比較MAKE SENSE.

sdcmc

ScientificAmeri 发表于 17-6-2016 20:07
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisbane#Demographics

Indeed, it's clearly shown the tendency o ...

看來那個不準確, WIKI很多都不經驗證的, 而且上面寫的本身也自相矛盾.

http://brisbane.chineseconsulate.org/chn/lqqk/t843432.htm

http://www.renkou.org.cn/countries/aodaliya/2014/531.html

都顯示大約9-10萬. 這個才比較MAKE SENSE.

ScientificAmeri

sdcmc 发表于 17-6-2016 20:36
看來那個不準確, WIKI很多都不經驗證的, 而且上面寫的本身也自相矛盾.

http://brisbane.chinesecon ...

Not necessarily the error in Wiki, note the data their is about "Chinese born overseas" , not the "huaren"/ethnic Chinese people in your words.

It's said that Auckland homes 170,000 ethnic Chinese which means roughly 12% of population. Regardless of what criterion it uses, the data at least shows a comparison among those cities, which perhaps explain why Auckland (with its population slightly higher than Adelaide)'s price by far outstripped Melbourne and just a little shy of Sydney.

A easy way to verify the hypothesis above is, you come to Auckland (or I move to Brisbane) to check if it's true.

It's clear enough.

sdcmc

ScientificAmeri 发表于 18-6-2016 06:51
Not necessarily the error in Wiki, note the data their is about "Chinese born overseas" , not th ...

本來你說的就是chinese pop. 不是 chinese born overseas 啊   

ScientificAmeri

sdcmc 发表于 18-6-2016 11:37
本來你說的就是chinese pop. 不是 chinese born overseas 啊

Right, but there's no stats about ethnic Chinese population, we therefore use the percentage of overseas born Chinese as an alternative way to speculate the former, which appears consistent with my intuitive feeling - Auckland undoubtedly tops all the cities.

I've met more than one Chinese student here complaining too much Chinese here thus hard to improve spoken English, for instance, when going to the cafe, try to order a cup of coffee using English, well, the staff is a Mandarin speaker, like that ...

Another example is, if you meet an unknown Chinese, they would ask you where do you work, and then (almost 100% of them would ask): a Chinese firm? Shxt, that implies, working in a Chinese firm has been the norm in Auckland?

My father used to visit the US (in Texas), and he didn't find such high-proportion of Chinese population there.

I appreciate a fully-English-speaking workplace I currently have, inside a city with 11% Chinese.

sdcmc

ScientificAmeri 发表于 18-6-2016 12:10
Right, but there's no stats about ethnic Chinese population, we therefore use the percentage of  ...

不是都說了布村大概10萬華人左右啊, NZ我不知道. 但布村說2萬是幾乎不可能的.

ScientificAmeri

sdcmc 发表于 18-6-2016 13:52
不是都說了布村大概10萬華人左右啊, NZ我不知道. 但布村說2萬是幾乎不可能的.

Be aware Brisbane has almost twice of total population but almost the same Chinese population.

Another notable thing is, Auckland is one of the few cities in the world without a "Chinatown", (they may have distinct names in other countries, like "Chuukagai" in Yokohama, "Nankinmachi" in Koube, but anyway people clearly know they are Chinatowns), I got pretty surprised when I found this truth.

sdcmc

ScientificAmeri 发表于 18-6-2016 14:48
Be aware Brisbane has almost twice of total population but almost the same Chinese population.
...

呵呵. 中國人多, 容易有高房價, 是一個普遍的說法, 布村中國人比例,沒有Auckland高, 這個很正常. Auckland 是一個不錯的地方, 就是NZ 地震比較多, 話說幾個比較地震多的地方, 比如NZ, 台灣, 日本,都是不錯的地方啊.

ScientificAmeri

sdcmc 发表于 18-6-2016 15:40
呵呵. 中國人多, 容易有高房價, 是一個普遍的說法, 布村中國人比例,沒有Auckland高, 這個很正常. Aucklan ...

That's almost unanimously recognized, one more example is Vancouver.

Well, I actually prefer Brisbane/Adelaide to Auckland (other than natural safety factors like earthquake/volcanoes).  What aspect of Auckland attracts you?

sdcmc

ScientificAmeri 发表于 18-6-2016 16:29
That's almost unanimously recognized, one more example is Vancouver.

Well, I actually prefer ...

沒毒物, 環境漂亮.

ScientificAmeri

sdcmc 发表于 18-6-2016 17:32
沒毒物, 環境漂亮.

Any 毒物 in Brisbane?

If you do care about that point, the rest of NZ would be more ideal, as Auckland has already been dirty.

Some people tend to be misled by the "clean" stereotype of NZ (it's more like a business promotion these days), unexpectedly NZ too has a number of environmental issues (though better than US). See the global environment sustainability index, where NZ does not top.

sdcmc

ScientificAmeri 发表于 18-6-2016 17:43
Any 毒物 in Brisbane?

If you do care about that point, the rest of NZ would be more ideal, as ...

澳洲滿是毒物, 當然, 越城市化的地方, 越少, 不知何解NZ沒有.

sdcmc

ScientificAmeri 发表于 18-6-2016 17:43
Any 毒物 in Brisbane?

If you do care about that point, the rest of NZ would be more ideal, as ...

澳洲有毒物, NZ有地震, 上帝是公平的, 看你喜歡地震還是毒物啦.

ScientificAmeri

sdcmc 发表于 18-6-2016 17:50
澳洲滿是毒物, 當然, 越城市化的地方, 越少, 不知何解NZ沒有.

NZ doesn't seem much different from AU, according to the env ranking (Australia even ranked higher than NZ last year).

Having said, NZ likes pretending to be cleaner than it actually is. You can check "NZ env issues" from Wikipedia.

ScientificAmeri

sdcmc 发表于 18-6-2016 17:52
澳洲有毒物, NZ有地震, 上帝是公平的, 看你喜歡地震還是毒物啦.

Right, no need to require too much in any aspect. And everyone should be clear about the value or the priority to their lives.

For instance, the US is more polluted than either AU or NZ, which won't prevent most intelligent people from moving to the country under fierce competitions, since it's by far less important than what they pursue.

Is the long life span really a crucial point of life, I surely disagree personally. Otherwise I would quit my job, live on house rent/unemployment benefits, spending all my time on the research/practice how to live longer in a seemingly clean country. Well, I did see not few Chinese live like that.

sdcmc

ScientificAmeri 发表于 18-6-2016 18:29
Right, no need to require too much in any aspect. And everyone should be clear about the value or  ...

每個人都有自己的價值觀啦, 很難說誰對谁錯的.

sdcmc

ScientificAmeri 发表于 18-6-2016 18:20
NZ doesn't seem much different from AU, according to the env ranking (Australia even ranked higher ...

我是說有毒的生物啊

ScientificAmeri

sdcmc 发表于 18-6-2016 18:43
每個人都有自己的價值觀啦, 很難說誰對谁錯的.

From my perspective there's no "right" and "wrong", the only thing makes difference is that your heart.

Any "happiness" is in your heart, which is not acquired with money. Conversely not few rich people are constantly suffering.

You may assert you are "right", while actually lying, but your heart at the time wouldn't be peaceful, that's it.

ScientificAmeri

sdcmc 发表于 18-6-2016 18:43
我是說有毒的生物啊

Imitating Master Huineng's term: it's not a venomous creature, but the venom in your heart.

sdcmc

ScientificAmeri 发表于 18-6-2016 18:52
Imitating Master Huineng's term: it's not a venomous creature, but the venom in your heart.

但問題是被蛇咬後, 去看醫生不能說我心中有毒啊!

sdcmc

ScientificAmeri 发表于 18-6-2016 18:51
From my perspective there's no "right" and "wrong", the only thing makes difference is that your h ...

那當然是看真心啦, 有些人不工作拿錢是心底裡快樂, 有些人工作不拿錢也是心底裡快樂, 每個人都不一樣啊.

ScientificAmeri

sdcmc 发表于 18-6-2016 18:57
但問題是被蛇咬後, 去看醫生不能說我心中有毒啊!

You probably haven't got my point.

That is to say, I may be killed by the earthquake/volcanic eruption any time(maybe just when I'm typing right now). Even in a "safer" land out of the ring of fire, keep in mind, no scientist/researchers on earth can predict the collision from an asteroid (which presumably led to the extinction of dinosaurs ).

So, tell me, who on earth is safe enough? The problem is some people (not only you) are fearful constantly.

Yes, I may die from the attack of snake, but it's much more likely for me to be killed by a car on the road. Why don't you worry about that "more practical" scenario then?

Any way I will die, sooner or later, and I don't think "later" is better than "sooner" what should I worry about?

The sense of Zen is, a person can peacefully face death at anytime, probably a second later, then he would be truly strong and unbeatable, the strongest substance in the universe - void, stronger than a diamond, that's why Diamond Sutra was named.

ScientificAmeri

sdcmc 发表于 18-6-2016 18:58
那當然是看真心啦, 有些人不工作拿錢是心底裡快樂, 有些人工作不拿錢也是心底裡快樂, 每個人都不一樣啊.  ...

Yes, any body can be enlightened at any time under any condition, though I doubt those benefit receivers, including Maori/pacific people, really got enlightened and relieved in that way~~ they suffer more instead, with the received benefit they drink and smoke, and become even poorer.

There's already an opinion, welfare is an addiction like drug, which should be removed, on behalf of those lazy people.