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本帖最后由 Thinker 于 7-12-2014 00:28 编辑

登陆墨尔本半年,终于拿到第一份正式工作的offer。 Senior JAVA developer。 开贴记下这个半年的点滴经验, 也算回报坛子里广大新老朋友的热心帮助和支持。

找工这个事要是掰细了说 再加上道听途说,风言风语三天也说不完。 我就捡重要的说, 要是有啥遗漏的, 我再尽量回答

  • 个人经历

    所有的成功都是倒序的,顺序的成功者正在默默无闻的顶着压力走在路上。 -- 知乎某吐槽


    5月登陆, 7月去tafe上课, 9月开始placement, 10月placement结束,和公司签casual 合同继续, 11月底拿到另一家公司的正式offer。

    tafe的课的全名是Certificate IV in EAL (Employment/Professional)  。 在悉尼好像是叫skillmax。 在墨尔本之前好像叫OQP(oversea qualified professional)course。这个课强烈推荐, 它的帮助是多方面的, 从英文上, 心态上, 人际关系上, 文化融入上都会有帮助。 这个帖子分享的心得也有一大部分是从课上学到的。

    http://www.bhtafe.edu.au/courses/local/Pages/VE257.aspx

  • 影响结果的因素

    有些人总是会容易成功一些, 他们抓住每一个机会, 如果没有机会, 那就创造机会。 -- 无尘

    • 本地经验
      这个应该是人人皆知的潜规则吧。 虽然明面上不好讲, 涉及到discrimination之类的。 但是还是有它的一定道理。 有本地经验, 大致英语差不了多少, culture和communication的问题也不大, 技术上能过关的话, 中介雇主都省心省事。   但是作为新移民, 明显是没有本地经验的,  就要从两个方面address这个问题。  首先在简历上 cover letter上, 面试中 都有明里暗里的为雇主打消这个顾虑。 IT的比较好说, 就是强调技术啊 管理啊 process啊全世界都一样, shall be no problem.   tafe上课时老师给建筑业的伊朗哥们的建议就是通读澳洲建筑业的code 尽可能多的和已有的伊朗经历联系起来。  另一方面就是尽快拿到可以说出口的本地经验。  tafe的课程最后有6个星期的placement实习。 个人感觉, 我正式offer面试是的面试考官对这一部分很感兴趣, 应该加分不少。 volunteer, 和本职工作相关的, 哪怕牵强相关也可以。 到时面试时还不是看你怎么用词了。  至于labor工, 如果是非法的cash工就不要提了。  如果是正式的,  也是可以说的, 可以在communication, culture 方面加分,  也反映出你个人的积极向上的心态, 和对家庭的responsibility。


    • communication & culture
      这一条的权重是比技术大的。 everything else being equal, 非要做选择的话, 雇主是会倾向于选沟通好的。  好在对于新移民来说这条也不难。 英语和culture就是个花时间的技术, 和天赋关系不大。 你看两三场footy你大概就懂规则了。 你每天24小时里 有10小时是英语的, communication 问题也就解决了。  主要是你能不能下这个决心。  tafe有个同学为了练听力, 有空就给买保险的打电话。 phone communication 也是找工作的一个重要环节。  如果你还是抱着非诚勿扰,  吃饭也是和华人扎堆, 听华语歌 华语电台, 看华语电影, 甚至搭讪都是搭华语妹子。  还要抱怨没法提高英语, 那我也只能呵呵了  


    • 技术
      这个大概是最简单的了, 只是注意根据市场需求更新一下自己技术列表。 同时注意一下各种专业用语的英文表达。


    • 圈子(networking)
      这个是被忽视的一项, job opportunity 在hidden market 和明面上的比例大概是 5:1.   把工作机会放去seek或者报纸上是雇主的最后的无奈的选择。 更多是通过内部推荐,或者在收到的简历中找个合适的。  扩展圈子也是tafe里的一课,  以下是部分上课笔记。

      Way to meet suitable people.
           Church, Children related activities and Club.
           Meetup activity, Forum,
           Facebook
           Linkedin - To complete 100% Profile to brand yourself better.  And join career related groups and participate actively to grow network
           Industry organization and institute meeting and activities
           Volunteer job in career related domain


      What would be stopping you moving forward -- Jill Noble


      一个很简单的关于你的networking小测试,  如果你在找工作, 你周围的人, 你的邻居, 知道你在找工作吗, 知道你擅长什么, 要找什么样的工作吗?



  • 实际找工流程及注意事项

    失败只有一种就是半途而废 -- 老罗

    • 有份没有语法, 重点突出, 格式正确的resume 和 cover letter。  这个tafe的课程会帮忙搞定。  如果有需求模板的同学可以私信我邮箱, 我可以把我的发一份。
    • 然后把时间分成三份。  一份用来投简历,
      http://www.seek.com.au
      http://www.linkedin.com/
      http://au.indeed.com/
      但是要区分是agency post position 还是雇主post position 。   如果是雇主的 要精心准备cover letter 和resume, 按照Job description 的每一条都要包含并突出。  agency的话就可以随意点海投。
    • 第二份, 巩固个人技术。  这个见仁见智。 因为个人技术不是强项, 为了过技术面试, 还是恶补了一番。
    • 第三份, networking: volunteer,cold call, conference, meetup, pub (如果你知道你的行业的人最喜欢泡哪个的话)
    • 面试, 只是所有环节的重中之重。 tafe的课程的帮助很大, 先是讲注意事项, 技巧, 题型, 然后有两次mock interview, 还会录像。 再根据每个人的表现, 做单独的提点。   对我的提醒有两句话: “Don't forget JD”, “Slow Down”。  就是说面试时每一句话 每个回答都要和JD(job description) 对应, 当然前提是你要把JD背熟。。 还有就是我的英语语速太快, 这个应该是我的个人缺点。 不过也可以理解, 你应该也不喜欢和一个中国话说的一般般,而且还有外语口音的外国人用超快的语速交流吧。  
    • referee: 在面试前后, 有可能要求提供1-3个referee。 到时和你的referee提前沟通好。







最后附上自己准备的 经过老师批改的面试时可能会遇到的question and answers

Q1: tell me about yourself

(Match with Job AD requirement)

I completed my Bachelor degree of Computing in the National University of ---. And I have -- years working experience in the IT industry, mainly focusing on JAVA online system development, delivery and maintenance.
In my career to date, I have been involved in several Full Software Development Life Cycles (SDLC) in both government and commercial projects.

I have strong technical skills. I started my work as JAVA developer and was promoted to Senior Developer -- ago. As a senior developer, Besides the development task, I was also involved in guiding junior developer, assisting project managers to handle projects.

In my spare time, I like to play badminton and go jogging. And also I like to read and watch movies, not those romantics but more like the sci-fi styles.  I migrated to Melbourne 3 months ago, and I would like to continue my IT career here. I am very looking forward to learning more about the position and thanks for the invitation for this interview.

Q2: Where do you see yourself in 5 years future?

I think in 5 years, I would like to be well established with your company. I would like to be very familiar with company processes, structure, set up good relations with colleagues and develop my career within the company.

Q3: What are your weakness?

Since I started my career as developer, I tended to focus too much on the technical details and solutions when I faced a problem. However, in the some situation,  the best solution or the most suitable solution may not be a technical solution. and It might be better to solve some problems by communication with users or discussion with team members.  I became aware of this weakness, especially when I was promoted to senior developer and started to handle stakeholders and requirements. So Nowadays when the problem surfaced, instead of focusing only on the technical aspects, I explore more about the problem.  i.e  what is the root cause of the problem, what does the user really want?  what are the other impacts or risks to make the change.  Instead of getting things done quickly, I learned to do the right thing and to do the things right.

Q4: Are you applying for any other positions:

Yes, I have applied for some other jobs. But I am interested in this one the most. I found the requirements matched my skill set, my background and experience. and I really glad to have this interview opportunity. I would love to have the opportunity to contribute the growth of your company.

Q5: Why would you migrate to Melbourne ?

I love the people, the culture and the life style here. In Melbourne, I can also enjoy outdoor activities, like hiking which is not that easy to access in Singapore.  and since the common practice and process in IT industry in both Singapore and Australia, I hope to be able to apply my work expertise into Australia easily. So I decided to migrate to Melbourne to setup my family here and meanwhile I hope I can continue my IT career here.

Q6: What is the biggest achievement ?

The biggest achievement in my career, I think, was an-- project for online application submission and process.  The system was to allow the global users to submit investment-applications online. and for government agency side, the cases submitted would flow according to business process.

The major challenge of the project was the tight schedule and shortage of resources, as one of main team members had to leave the project and go back to India due to some family emergencies. The manager decided to invoke a vendor to help out with the resource issue. So besides my development task, as senior developer,  I needed to manage and monitor vendor progress, and communicate with users for clarification of requirements. Meanwhile, I also needed to provide technical support for junior developers from offshore.

To monitor the project progress closely, we occupied a meeting room as a war room, and had an everyday agile stand up meeting.  It was a busy and stressful 3 months.  but the result was good. I , together with my teammates, managed to deliver the project on time.  And the customers were happy with the result, and awarded my company the 2nd phase of project.  In recognition of the effort and success, my team was awarded of Quality Of Difference prize in the annual company D&D meeting

Q7: Tell me about your skills as a team player.

I am a reliable person in a team.  I ensure all my task and assignment are done correctly and consistently.  So my team members can trust my work and are willing to work with me.  Also I am good at empathizing with and sensing others' feelings. And I am a good listener. Teammates are happy to approach me to discuss the difficulties and problems.  And if I sense any teammates having any problems,  I also will initiate the discussion to see whether I can help out.  So many teammates and I became good friends after work.  and we are still in contact even after I came to Melbourne.

Q8: What makes you think you are the right person for the job?  (similar with strengths)

I have--years working experience in IT online system development, delivery and maintenance. In my previous positions, I was involved in several --  projects and used several tools and frameworks similar to the KITS system.  (Briefly mention, if already talked about it previously In one of my previous project for Singapore Post Department, we needed to build an online mail system to replace the physical snail mail system in Singapore. It required extremely user-friendly and interactive functions and UI in the web presentation layer. The front-end was implemented with Web tools and technologies including HTML5, CSS, Javascript, AJAX, jQuery.  JSON format message was used to communicate between the presentation layer and business layer with REST protocol.  ). Also I have an easy going inter personality. And I have good communication skills and negotiation skills for project management and stakeholder management.  All in all, I think I am a good fit for this position and I am very interested in this position. I hope my previous government project experience would utilize my expertise and contribute to the KITS project.

Q9: Tell us about a time when you had to deal with a difficult colleague?

When I worked in a -- project, part of my job scope was to manage the project delivery in phases.  I needed to prepare the package and instruction of deployment, and pass them to the Operation team who were doing the deployment actually.

One day, just a day before the deployment, one of the operation team member called up and complained that the instruction had a mistake, and she refused to perform the deployment.

My first instinct was to respond angrily on the phone, but I knew it was not the best response to settle the conflict, so I tried to calm her down, and promised to check on the procedure again and let her know ASAP.  After the call, I checked the instructions again,  it was not a mistake but a special step which was different from the previous usual deployment.  I called her and explained it, and we agreed that for any special deployment steps, I would put up special note beside the steps. Also I invited her to have a lunch session sometime. During the lunch, I found out that, she had another project deployment on the day, which caused her a lot of stress.  She apologized for her bad mood on the phone.

This built up a good rapport between us, and we cooperated very well in all the following project deliveries.



Q10:  Give me a example of a time that you showed initiative and took the lead.

When I was in my previous job in -- , we had some problems to prepare production deployment package when there were some concurrent changes on the same piece of code.  So I initiated and pushed through a process improvement for existing code control practice. The improvement was to add a multi-branch feature to the current process.  I set up a trial process as a POC (Proof of concept), then I prepared and distributed the checkout and commit guidelines to all the developers and vendors. And I also hosted a meeting with all parties to explain the detailed changes for this improvement.  After the improvement process has been adapted, the feedback was very positive as it provided better control of concurrent development of the same piece of code, as well as simplified production release management.


Q11: Tell me about a time when you felt you were unable to meet your responsibilities.

I remember a time when I worked in a project for the Singapore Economic Development Board. I joined the team in the middle of the project, because one of the team member left the company for some reason.  However, the project used a new technology (Adobe Livecycle tools) which was quite different from that I had  worked with. I tried to study the technology in my spare time, but I found that the learning curve was a bit stiff, and it could have delayed the project. So I approached my manager with this situation, together with 2 possible solutions. One was to send me to the training course to acquire the necessary skills, or to hire a vendor for this part of work, and I could learn from the vendor during the project.  After the discussion, the management fully understood the situation and was happy that I had raised this potential issue that might have delayed the project.  In the end, a vendor with required skills was hired and the project completed according the schedule. Meanwhile I learned the skill from vendor and the skills were applied in the 2nd phase of the following projects.

Q12: Describe a time when you had to negotiate a  compromise or had to help others arrives at a compromise.

There was a time when I was in my previous job at -- , and there was a user requirement to develop a new search function with a wild card keyword. I was involved in the design and development for this charge. However, I found that due to huge size of data,  the wild card search would have impacted the system performance, and causing the slowness in other functions. So I arranged a meeting with the users and explained the impact of this changes.  I also proposed 2 possible solutions to compromise this issue.  One was to change the wild card search to a concise search, or we need some more search criteria to constrict the search range. The user fully understood the situation, and they also didn't want a change that would slow down the system performance. So they agree to compromise to the first approach, which was to use concise searching.  In the end, the change deployed the system without impacting the system. The user was happy to use the search function as it improved their work efficiency as well.



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给你一个大大的祝贺。。。。
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IT 好找工作吗?
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谢谢分享。恭喜楼主。
请问,你说的墨尔本的这个TAFE课程Certificate IV in EAL (Employment/Professional),需要提前报名吗?offshore的时候就可以网上报名,还是需要登陆后呢?收费和课程周期如何呢?
  
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学习了。
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 楼主| 发表于 7-12-2014 00:13:56 | 只看该作者

这个问题我真的不知道,  不过任何简单的回答好找 或者不好找的答案都是不负责的,不靠谱的,耍流氓的 :)

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zhouxiaoming81 发表于 6-12-2014 20:59
谢谢分享。恭喜楼主。
请问,你说的墨尔本的这个TAFE课程Certificate IV in EAL (Employment/Professi ...

这个课程大概是一个半月的课程, 一个半月的实习(不是100%的保证有实习机会)。  大概每三个月开一次。  登陆后再申请也来得及, 而且还有一个入学面试。  费用方面取决于你的身份, 如果完全没有补贴的话,好象是2000AUD+, 如果是PR,是400 还是600 我忘了,  如果还有HCC卡的话, 好像是100多。。。

具体你可以根据网站上的邮箱 给学校发邮件问问。   

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什么是HCC卡呀
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请问关于实习的机会是怎么安排的呢
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支持,对找到工作的人也很有帮助
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huihui0929 发表于 7-12-2014 00:58
什么是HCC卡呀

Google "hcc Australia "
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platinum 发表于 7-12-2014 03:46
请问关于实习的机会是怎么安排的呢

老师会根据你的专业和自身意愿在关系公司寻找实习机会。 同时你也可以自己去找。 不是100% 保证,也看行业 行情 个人实力。 不过我这届 IT, accountant,admin都找到了, 建筑业反而不好找 毕业时还有几个没找到
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楼主牛人。一上来就Senior了。膜拜一下。
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Thinker 发表于 7-12-2014 00:21
这个课程大概是一个半月的课程, 一个半月的实习(不是100%的保证有实习机会)。  大概每三个月开一次。  ...


非常棒的分享,强烈祝贺一下!
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恭喜楼主
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我是今年年初在悉尼上的skillmax。

悉尼這邊的課程沒有那個最後的實習內容,所以相比之下,還是墨爾本的這個更實用。
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Thinker 发表于 7-12-2014 00:21
这个课程大概是一个半月的课程, 一个半月的实习(不是100%的保证有实习机会)。  大概每三个月开一次。  ...

谢谢。
墨尔本任何一所TAFE都有此课程吗,还是得到设置此课程的学校去才行呢?
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恭喜 恭喜
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Thinker 发表于 7-12-2014 00:21
这个课程大概是一个半月的课程, 一个半月的实习(不是100%的保证有实习机会)。  大概每三个月开一次。  ...

再请问楼主,看课程说明对英语的级别有要求,是需要出示雅思成绩,需要几分?还是,面试通过就行呢?
谢谢。
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我当初也是在悉尼上的Skillmax课程,没有实习机会,不过课程内容确实也是非常有用的。而且和老师交了很好的朋友,我在悉尼的时候,他请我听音乐会和吃饭;后来他每次来猫笨,我也请他吃饭,这个收获简直是无价的。
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zhouxiaoming81 发表于 8-12-2014 18:47
再请问楼主,看课程说明对英语的级别有要求,是需要出示雅思成绩,需要几分?还是,面试通过就行呢?
谢 ...

不是每个tafe都有这门课。 面试就是看看英语水平。 如果实在交流有问题, 会推荐先上英语课 再上这门课。  毕竟这门课是4级 Certificate IV in EAL (English as additional Language)

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谢谢楼主的分享,收藏了!
恭喜楼主,祝一切顺利~~~
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发表于 9-12-2014 10:18:11 | 只看该作者
谢谢楼主分享,墨尔本这个提供实习的机会确实比悉尼好,话说原来悉尼也是有的,不知道为什么取消了

‘失败只有一种就是半途而废’, 我很赞同!!!特别是刚移民来澳洲找工作的同学们,共勉!
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24#
发表于 11-12-2014 18:03:45 | 只看该作者
很棒很棒
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25#
发表于 29-12-2014 18:16:26 | 只看该作者

LOW INCOME CARD
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26#
发表于 29-12-2014 18:21:01 | 只看该作者
Homesglen   full fee $4000 conssetion$200 Gov. Subsidised$1000
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27#
发表于 29-12-2014 18:21:33 | 只看该作者
full fee $4500
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28#
发表于 31-12-2014 16:02:12 | 只看该作者
Thinker 发表于 6-12-2014 21:21
这个课程大概是一个半月的课程, 一个半月的实习(不是100%的保证有实习机会)。  大概每三个月开一次。  ...

HCC是什么
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29#
发表于 31-12-2014 17:05:46 | 只看该作者



健康卡,低收入人士可以到centerlink申请(Health Care Card),很多服务可以优惠:
http://www.humanservices.gov.au/ ... nk/health-care-card
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发表于 2-1-2015 13:46:19 | 只看该作者
谢谢,我仔细研究一下
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