我在澳洲建房的坎坷经历（阿村）（现在已经不感觉坎坷了）

流云

楼主，你现在的进展怎样了？
我看上了一块地，也想自己建。

xiaodanya

楼主，建房进展如何了？

hunt_easter

感谢大家还把一个老帖子翻出来，我自己都忘了。
几番周折，马上要开工了。我看到钢筋都放到边上了。by the way, 就那么放那儿， 也不怕有人偷了。
这段时间忙别的事，过后再详细汇报。

[ 本帖最后由 hunt_easter 于 17-8-2009 17:57 编辑 ]

西皮二黄

原帖由 hunt_easter 于 17-8-2009 17:56 发表

                               
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感谢大家还把一个老帖子翻出来，我自己都忘了。
几番周折，马上要开工了。我看到钢筋都放到边上了。by the way, 就那么放那儿， 也不怕有人偷了。
这段时间忙别的事，过后再详细汇报。

多来交流阿~~

hunt_easter

地买了差不多一年了，地基刚刚打好，其中坎坷无人能知呀
布庄的飞飞比我买地还晚，现在差不多都move in了吧
接下来，我会陆续来点“回忆录”， 作为牵扯之鉴吧

hunt_easter

17 Feb, 2009

We received the footing report and a variation to convert PC Sum for site works & footing to a fixed price. Footing and soil removal cost would be 39K. In the contract they quoted the footing at 24K. They told me the recent history price of site work in the area is 22k-29k. I was even dreaming the site cost could be lower than 24k and I could get some credit back but I had to face a big debit of 15k.

The reason was: My land was a highly reactive clay site, which could experience high ground movement from moisture changes. The roots from my neighbor’s trees could absorb moisture in the foundation soil causing shrinkage or subsidence and the development of those roots was beyond their knowledge. So they have to make super footings to prevent some possible affect of the trees or they would not be responsible for any result caused by that. That was what I mentioned before that I was going to pay a lot more because I picked this half of the land which had a good fengshui.

After contacted the builder many times it seemed no chance to reduce any price. So I had to accept it. One of my friends suggested me to remove the trees. But I was afraid that my neighbor would not agree with that. Even if they agreed with that I had to get a council approval and I have to pay for the removal. After bothered so much how much could I save? Now at least I could get a super footing. You get what you pay for – the most expensive footing in the area!

xingchen

gx你的工程终于进入建造阶段了!
Footing and soil removal cost would be 39K.---这个费用是基础完工后付出的第一笔工程款吗？真够贵的!

hunt_easter

这个跟第一笔工程款并不一致，今天刚接到催款通知，我也不知他们是怎么算的，反正最终要付足合同额就是了

hunt_easter

Here is a table of my cost variation after my color selection. Hope that can help you get some idea of it.

upgrade to single lift door for front (garage)	$850
Clipsal slimline electrical fittings	$384
3 phase power upgrade to meter box	$420
convert 7 x single power points to double power points	$70
5 x extra internal single power points	$225
2 x extra internal double power points	$110
2 x external single power points	$160
2 x extra external light points	$180
non-standard Iight mortar with white sand	$355
silver range black roof shingle	$373
R3.0 ceiling insulation above garage	$215
colorbond gutters & fascias	$653
silver range Satin Black window frames	$420
PMAD04 front door with Ray glass	$426
security screen door to front door	$420
Nexion Spire front door handle	$195
3 coat washable internal paint system	$886
10 x Stanford internal (ensuite door to remain standard)	$500
provide privacy locks to bedrooms (x 3)	$45
non-standard frame colour to sliding doors in bedroom 2 & 3	$160
silver range joinery handles	$55
1m overhead cupboards to remainder of kitchen to house rangehood	$495
Westinghouse POP667S stainless steel,electric oven	$607
Westinghouse GHP96S stainless steel,gas cooktop	$359
Pacific Aotu Clean AS 900 stainless steel rangehood	$1,148
Urban Plus 5601 kitchen sink including accessories	$280
Abelphi kitchen mixer	$95
Careeba 1510mm bath	$110
2 x Cube rectangular 500 above counter basins to bathroom	$840
Newport Close Coupled toilet suite to bathroom & ensuite	$560
by-pass system to bathroom & ensuite WC. Capped on bed 2/study	$350
non-standard tapware to bathroom	$851
Retro accessories to bathroom & ensuite	$360
non-standard shower frame colour (Matt Natural) to bathroom & ensuite	$80
non-standard shower screen glass (Seadrift) to bathroom & ensuite	$620
Tasman Deluxe Semi Recessed basin to ensuite	$165
drop down front to ensuite vanity	$59
non-stardard tapware to ensuite	$334
non-standard tapware to laundy	$191
non-standard grout colour to wet areas	$180
extra floor tiling to main bathroom vanity area	$213
square chrome floor grates to vet areas	$120
	$15,119

hunt_easter

2 June, 2009

I received an email form the builder on that day. Attachment was an letter from city council,which was asking me to do the following:

1. An Environmental Statement that indicates how the proposed dwelling would meet the energy efficiency requirements outlined in Council's Development Plan.

2. Arborist Report from a qualified arborist which supports the proposed dwelling location and construction which is proposed clse to 2 significant trees on the adjoining allotment.

3. Pay the fees to remove a council street tree

4. Payment in order for Council to undertake Category 2 Public Notification of the development application, which should be paid by the builder

To my big surprise, the letter was sent to the builder on 21 Apr,2009.  It was 42 days on the road before it finally reached me! I ever thought they were a big company and they should have a mature system to run the business. There were no benefit for them to hold my project. I did not want to push them too much for just one or two day's ealier on the schedule. I did not even give them a call before the letter. The letter asking more information was what I got when I was expecting an approval was coming shortly.

What should I learn from this? How the big builder was dealing with their customers?

Microhard

不容易啊，盖房子

Microhard

已经加入http://www.freeoz.org/bbs/viewth ... page%3D1#pid1260975

hunt_easter

谢            谢

hunt_easter

现在考虑rain tank的问题, 因为地的面积不大，所以想整一个水泥的地下水罐，不占用地表面积
结果看了报价， $13.6K, 放弃。 来个小的算了

按规定新房的tank必须接入包括厕所在内的几个设施之一。现在水费是 $0.97/KL， 但是如果用水泵的把这1KL 水抽到厕所，差不多也要这个花费吧！
所以我在想是不是可以靠重力让水自己流到厕所？
查了一下我的马桶的技术规格，发现入水压力最少要30kpa, 也就是tank出水口的高度至少要比马桶高出3米， 这样雨水又不能自己流到tank里

谁有好的主义可以指点一下呀？

hunt_easter

Miter10 $275一个 220L

                               
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xingchen

这种雨水箱倒是不错哦，既美观也省空间。有点不解，请教：图二雨水箱的左上角是进水管，那右上角的管是上出水管吗？另外还有下出水口吗？出水口在水箱最上部，那就需要水泵送水，水泵安装在哪？

hunt_easter

右上角的是溢流口，出水口一般在下面，水泵不一定跟tank在一起，装那里都行

hunt_easter

这几天的进度比我想的还要快，原来想地基打好之后，要等我付款才开始后续的工作，因为银行一直没付款，所以好几天没去看，没想到过去一看，架子都差不多了，雨槽也装上了
现在已经不感觉坎坷了，

                               
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[ 本帖最后由 hunt_easter 于 3-11-2009 23:12 编辑 ]

xingchen

进度很快啊！楼上这种颜色木框架与原色的有什么区别，木材的材质、强度和防虫性怎样？

hunt_easter

原帖由 xingchen 于 4-11-2009 11:08 发表

                               
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进度很快啊！楼上这种颜色木框架与原色的有什么区别，木材的材质、强度和防虫性怎样？

就是原色的木料，多加了一道处理防虫处理而已，￥1000 extra
防虫性据说不错，实际情况不得而知
花点钱买个心净

coconut

原帖由 hunt_easter 于 31-10-2009 17:51 发表

                               
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Miter10 $275一个 220L

220L一个太小了些，1立方水就得5个。

yookehoo

期待进展！

zhuye1104

Jealous!!

hunt_easter

原帖由 coconut 于 4-11-2009 15:46 发表

                               
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220L一个太小了些，1立方水就得5个。

是这样的

hunt_easter

原帖由 zhuye1104 于 4-11-2009 18:35 发表

                               
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Jealous!!

ginko

为什么有用个木头而不用砖砌房子？都用混凝土浇上不更结实吗？

[ 本帖最后由 ginko 于 5-11-2009 20:22 编辑 ]

hunt_easter

现在的房子基本都是这样，木头框架（也有用金属的），外面砌砖，里面木板，中间加隔热层
要真用混凝土都浇上，夏天估计没法住了
混凝土是典型的thermal mass, 就是受太阳辐射吸收储存热量，晚上放热

hunt_easter

至于为什么不用混凝土框架，不得而知，也许是建筑习惯，也许有他们自己的道理
倒是见过用预制中空水泥板作墙的，成本可以低不少，但估计效果并不好，所以用的不多

xingchen

钢筋砼结构的house造价高；木结构施工简易灵活，完全能满足建筑安全使用要求。

yookehoo

楼主，进度怎么样了啊？期待你的进程！