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作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 13:26
标题: Go back to China or Stay here/SDY or Mel or Brisbane
本帖最后由 leozhou1385 于 23-9-2015 12:35 编辑

Basic: We are living an inner city in NSW, and I am not satisfying the current situation in my work place. I decided to move to another city.

Q1.Go back to China or Stay here ?: I have lived in OZ around 6+ years, and I am pretty missing my parents after I suffered seriously illness last year. I am planning to share more time with them esp. they are becoming older and older. On the other hand, my wife is hesitant to go back to China, and the reason is that she is not ready to re-start again if we land OZ two years later. Her most concern is my daughter' study, who will be starting kindergarten soon. I am not confident that they will accompany with me if I moved back to my home town. That means we will be separate for a while which is unacceptable for me. I really love my daughter. Alternatively, I could stay in China approxi. 6 months from the new year eve 2016, and they will remain this inner town during that period. Then I will land in Brisbane to look for a job. They will move to there after I am settled down in Brisbane.

Q2.SDY or Mel or Brisbane ?: I did the job search on LinkedIn and Seek this morning, and there are more job opportunities in SDY, followed by Mel, and Brisbane is the lest. we could not afford the high housing price in SDY although I like it very much. Our ideal city is Brisbane.

Any suggestions?
TA
作者: 周星星1832    时间: 23-9-2015 14:49
给我的感觉。。个人感觉从你的表述。。。如有冒犯请原谅

you need to grow up!!!!
所有现在的想法都是由你生病和工作不顺引起的。。。。
作者: 周星星1832    时间: 23-9-2015 14:53
Be a man,  your family count on you, but all you want to do is running  away from reality .
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 14:57
周星星1832 发表于 23-9-2015 13:49
给我的感觉。。个人感觉从你的表述。。。如有冒犯请原谅

you need to grow up!!!!

Yes, you r right
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 14:57
本帖最后由 leozhou1385 于 23-9-2015 14:02 编辑
周星星1832 发表于 23-9-2015 13:53
Be a man,  your family count on you, but all you want to do is running  away from reality .


what is your point?
it is no chance to get the promotion or salary increase within 3 years if I remain this comp.
作者: mason00    时间: 23-9-2015 15:06
回国吧
作者: starrry    时间: 23-9-2015 15:21
You'll need to find another offer first, no matter where they are, and then make the decision
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 15:24
mason00 发表于 23-9-2015 14:06
回国吧

could u please give more details?
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 15:26
starrry 发表于 23-9-2015 14:21
You'll need to find another offer first, no matter where they are, and then make the decision

totally agree with u
作者: jc2602    时间: 23-9-2015 15:44
leozhou1385 发表于 23-9-2015 13:57
what is your point?
it is no chance to get the promotion or salary increase within 3 years if I ...

3年不加薪就动了回国的念头？我告诉你我都6年没加薪了。。。现在的薪水养不活你全家了？在澳洲能不能加薪升职不是关键问题，回到国内就一定能找到高薪工作？即便满足了这点虚荣心生活就完美了？工作薪水钱只是生活的一部分不是全部。。。你可以选择跳槽，但按照澳洲的税收情况多了5k、10k又有多大区别？除非一下涨了2万以上，你可以考虑先换工作环境，但回国和留在澳洲和工作和钱根本扯不上多大关系。。。要是考虑老人当初根本就不应该移民，现在考虑是不是太晚了？
作者: lyle_w    时间: 23-9-2015 15:45
楼主不是前两天刚发帖得罪了二老板的那个么。
去布里斯班还是悉尼，能解决你目前的最大的思乡恋父母的困扰？
没人能建议你什么，这取决于你自己想要什么。
在悉尼生活的人也很多，房价贵，但新移民买了房子的也没见少；布里斯班的job数量从seek上来看是少很多，但是布里斯班人也少，我刚移民来的时候到布里斯班三个月也找到工作了，我老婆英语没有4个6也找到IT专业工作了，我身边认识的新移民朋友也都有不错的工作。
在哪里都有生活的开心和不开心的人，这并不取决于房价多少钱，或工作好不好找。
作者: jc2602    时间: 23-9-2015 15:49
另外，你去哪里老婆孩子最好是跟去那里，小孩需要的更多的是陪伴，对于孩子的学习哪有什么规定说哪里的学校好哪里的不好，这都是看小孩自己还有家长的，你回国去花钱上国际学校也不见得就出息了，老婆适不适应也就是个过程，不过最后的选择是你自己的任何人的意见也就是个参考，有人回国成功的也有再跑回来的，这看你自己了。
作者: 周星星1832    时间: 23-9-2015 15:49
leozhou1385 发表于 23-9-2015 13:57
what is your point?
it is no chance to get the promotion or salary increase within 3 years if I ...

my point is let other people draw attention to your post
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 15:51
本帖最后由 leozhou1385 于 23-9-2015 15:02 编辑
jc2602 发表于 23-9-2015 14:49
另外，你去哪里老婆孩子最好是跟去那里，小孩需要的更多的是陪伴，对于孩子的学习哪有什么规定说哪里的学校 ...


毛塞顿开
这不时生了厂大病，才想起父母亲了。当时出国时，就计划换好护照就回国的
现在有小的了，我不能当家做主了。得听家里boss的
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 15:58
本帖最后由 leozhou1385 于 23-9-2015 15:05 编辑
jc2602 发表于 23-9-2015 14:49
另外，你去哪里老婆孩子最好是跟去那里，小孩需要的更多的是陪伴，对于孩子的学习哪有什么规定说哪里的学校 ...


we are planning to stay at china for 2 years then settle down in OZ
my wife does not want to go back to china now
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 16:01
lyle_w 发表于 23-9-2015 14:45
楼主不是前两天刚发帖得罪了二老板的那个么。
去布里斯班还是悉尼，能解决你目前的最大的思乡恋父母的困扰 ...


yes, it is me
you give me the confidence to move to Brisbane.
anyway getting a job is the priority as I do not know how we could survive without the income
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 16:04
jc2602 发表于 23-9-2015 14:49
另外，你去哪里老婆孩子最好是跟去那里，小孩需要的更多的是陪伴，对于孩子的学习哪有什么规定说哪里的学校 ...

老婆孩子去哪里,wo最好是跟去那里
作者: jc2602    时间: 23-9-2015 16:04
leozhou1385 发表于 23-9-2015 14:51
毛塞顿开
这不时生了厂大病，才想起父母亲了。当时出国时，就计划换好护照就回国的
现在有小的了，我 ...

父母亲如果身体可以让他们办了签证过来呆呆也行，或者直接办付费移民让他们自由出入澳洲并享受这边的免费医疗，国内虽说大病可以医保但国内人太多，有没有关系不说，没病的进了医院也能整出病来，如果按照现在的汇率花个20万办个移民，要是在国内得了大病这20万哪够花的？
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 16:09
jc2602 发表于 23-9-2015 15:04
父母亲如果身体可以让他们办了签证过来呆呆也行，或者直接办付费移民让他们自由出入澳洲并享受这边的免费 ...

they are farmers living in small remote county, and they do not want to travel even did not visit me as I was in Shanghai.
I guess the most reason is that they are not rich, and travel expenditure is a burden for them. Although I acknowledged them I would like buy the tickets for them
作者: jc2602    时间: 23-9-2015 16:10
leozhou1385 发表于 23-9-2015 14:58
we are planning to stay at china for 2 years then settle down in OZ
my wife does not want to go b ...

我曾经也动过回国的念头，也是因为老人身体不佳，刚开始出于一种兴奋心理我和老婆都觉得回国一段时间挺好的，但孩子不愿意回去他们知道国内读书苦，你回国工作现在的消费水平也完全吃不消，把小孩让老人带别说带得好不好，一样能把老人累跨，如果老人有事你人在也就是能看看一样还得送医院去，后来我老婆就不同意回去了，我想想也是，不如让老人过来否则折腾起来太厉害，你老婆不愿意回去也是正常的，只有当事人才会有很高的兴致，冷静下来好好想想弊大于利，当然这是个人情况，如果你觉得回国一定可以过得很好另当别论。。。
作者: jc2602    时间: 23-9-2015 16:13
leozhou1385 发表于 23-9-2015 15:04
老婆孩子去哪里,wo最好是跟去那里

你这想法更小儿科了，如果你是家里的顶梁柱作主的必定是你自己而不是让她们作主，不管这个决定是不是正确或者与你的想法相违背都得你下决定，无论什么决定都不会让所有人满意但只要大部分人满意就可以了。。。
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 16:13
jc2602 发表于 23-9-2015 15:10
我曾经也动过回国的念头，也是因为老人身体不佳，刚开始出于一种兴奋心理我和老婆都觉得回国一段时间挺好 ...

the main reason I want to go back to china is I am missing them so much
回国一定可以过得很好? I do not think so, and I will live like a normal chinese
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 16:17
jc2602 发表于 23-9-2015 15:13
你这想法更小儿科了，如果你是家里的顶梁柱作主的必定是你自己而不是让她们作主，不管这个决定是不是正确 ...

I am not the boss at home - I have to tally agree with it
yes, I will and have to make the final decision to satisfy the boss at home
作者: ArBen    时间: 23-9-2015 16:17
周星星1832 发表于 23-9-2015 13:49
给我的感觉。。个人感觉从你的表述。。。如有冒犯请原谅

you need to grow up!!!!

挺义正言辞的哈 星星
作者: 周星星1832    时间: 23-9-2015 16:19
ArBen 发表于 23-9-2015 15:17
挺义正言辞的哈 星星

这个贴子半个小时都没人回复。／／／
我忙里偷闲回复了下
作者: ArBen    时间: 23-9-2015 16:21
周星星1832 发表于 23-9-2015 15:19
这个贴子半个小时都没人回复。／／／
我忙里偷闲回复了下

人品
作者: jc2602    时间: 23-9-2015 16:21
leozhou1385 发表于 23-9-2015 15:09
they are farmers living in small remote county, and they do not want to travel even did not visit  ...

国内的老人确实会有这种想法，但你可以骗他们你已经买了机票无法退票，如果他们不来会损失很大，善意的谎言
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 16:23
jc2602 发表于 23-9-2015 15:21
国内的老人确实会有这种想法，但你可以骗他们你已经买了机票无法退票，如果他们不来会损失很大，善意的谎 ...

haha
u r smart
I think I will try this solution - ask them temporarily stay with me. To be honest, my wife does not like my parents
作者: jc2602    时间: 23-9-2015 16:27
leozhou1385 发表于 23-9-2015 15:17
I am not the boss at home - I have to tally agree with it
yes, I will and have to make the final ...

Whatever who's the boss you're family so the decision is important for every member. Anyway, you can't rely on anyone push you to do something. You need fully obtain confidence and preparation if you really want to return and restart. No pain no gain that's everyone's life!
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 16:29
jc2602 发表于 23-9-2015 15:27
Whatever who's the boss you're family so the decision is important for every member. Anyway, you c ...

I got it
thanks
作者: jc2602    时间: 23-9-2015 16:34
leozhou1385 发表于 23-9-2015 15:23
haha
u r smart
I think I will try this solution - ask them temporarily stay with me. To be hones ...

I tell you a truth. No one will treat in law as your own parent because different behavior and habit. Sometimes their bad manner even you will hate as well. So that's normal reaction. But you or your wife must understand no one can choose parent and no one can ban them as well. You can yell to them because they're your most intimate people in the world but don't skip them.
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 16:48
jc2602 发表于 23-9-2015 15:34
I tell you a truth. No one will treat in law as your own parent because different behavior and hab ...

great
it is true- that is why locals are rare live together with there parents after their marriage. I am thinking to rent another unit for my parents if they come. I do not want to being in trouble. Known I am a trouble-maker
作者: jc2602    时间: 23-9-2015 16:56
leozhou1385 发表于 23-9-2015 15:48
great
it is true- that is why locals are rare live together with there parents after their marria ...

that's a good idea. Alternatively you can buy an investment property as they only travel for a short while. I don't think landlord will lease for a such short term or you pay a high rate rental. You can lease it out after they return to china then you can gain tax deduction benefit or negative gain.  
作者: leozhou1385    时间: 23-9-2015 17:37
jc2602 发表于 23-9-2015 15:56
that's a good idea. Alternatively you can buy an investment property as they only travel for a sho ...

I'd like to do it
the story is that we do not own any house properties here. And we were trying to buy one in this small town, and ended with nothing - is planning to move to another city
作者: jc2602    时间: 23-9-2015 17:42
leozhou1385 发表于 23-9-2015 16:37
I'd like to do it
the story is that we do not own any house properties here. And we were trying  ...

you still have chance you still have oppotunity unless you give up
作者: TimeSpace    时间: 23-9-2015 18:24
Come to Brisbane, at least the house price is low and the sunshine will make you feel brighter.
作者: 语之玫瑰    时间: 23-9-2015 18:47
不用马上决定，但是可以开始行动起来，先试试如果能在布里斯班找到工作，那么就搬吧，压力小很多



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