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[language study] Should media report details of crime to the public or not?

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发表于 21-9-2010 14:01:47 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Some people think that media should not report details of crime to the public. To what extent do you agree or disagree?
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 楼主| 发表于 21-9-2010 14:04:36 | 只看该作者

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I agree that media should not report details of crimes.

There are three reasons why I think media shouldn not report details of crimes.

The first reason is that details of crimes can teach some persons who wanted to crime but did not know the method to crime find  ways to do evil things.

The second reason is that details can evoke victims' painful memories about the crimes and deprive of their privacy and dignity.

The third reason is that details of crime might make the criminals who wanted to have fun from the crimes feel happy and encourage them commit crimes again.

发表这个辩论的用意是锻炼关于犯罪、媒体方面的词汇量和思维。大家还可以结合中文的《弟子规》里相关的观点比如说“扬人恶,既是恶;疾之甚,祸且作”的观点来分析。
当然也可以从反方分析,比如说青山同学要是来辩论的话,他可能就是持相反的意见的,然后他会有相应的观点等等。

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 楼主| 发表于 21-9-2010 14:09:36 | 只看该作者

平版及Lisa2008的观点等

反方 pinxinge 18-9-2010 15:17

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I disagree, without any doubt.

I need some time to get things organized in my mind. I will come back this evening.
Anyone who can help me?
反方 pinxinge 18-9-2010 23:22

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There are three reasons why I disagree media shouldn't report details of crimes.

First of all, the public need to know the truth, not just sth that blurs the fact. The details of crime help people get to know the truth of whole process.

Next, the details of crimes will help teach people learn how to prevent themselves from being hurt by the criminals. They may learn what they should do and what they should not under some dangerous circumstances.

Last but not least, knowing the details of crime will help people fight with the criminals. What's more, people may be well prepared for the upcoming dangerous, they will be highly alert and sensitive, and proactively prevent the crimes from happening.
中立 lisa2008 19-9-2010 00:25

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too late today....... will come back tomorrow
反方 pinxinge 19-9-2010 00:32

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I think the reasons provided by the positive side does not hold water at all. Let me give you the reasons one by one.
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The first reason is that details of crimes can teach some persons who wanted to crime but did not know the method to crime find  ways to do evil things.
If the details of crime is a text book of prime, it is the public who will get more benefit from it. In fact, it the criminals want to get some method, they have lots of ways to get it. For example, one can easily buy a novel that detailed the process of a criminal offense. Most of them does not care much about the news at all. But for the public, the media is the most common way for them to get those information.
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The second reason is that details can evoke victims' painful memories about the crimes and deprive of their privacy and dignity.
That's not true. Although I'm not a psychologist, I clearly know that the victims definitely need to face what happened to them directly. Avoid talking, hearing the fact of the crime all the time will not help them get rid of the shadow of the hurt.
[quote]The third reason is that details of crime might make the criminals who wanted to have fun from the crimes feel happy and encourage them commit crimes again.
That reason is funny. It looks like the positive side has attibuted the reason of crime is the criminals what to get fun. I would say this opinion is quite harmful because it neglects the social reason of crime. Criminals are not born as criminals, they are ordinary people, they have their own dream, they are just like any of us. If we want to prevent crimes from happening, what we need do is not hiding the truth, we need probe the real social reason.
反方 pinxinge 19-9-2010 00:35

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Why I can not add points here?

俺想加分都加不了?
反方 pinxinge 19-9-2010 10:58

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Forum is under attack. Top post.
正方 fanjy015 19-9-2010 11:04

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原帖由 pinxinge 于 19-9-2010 10:58 发表
Forum is under attack. Top post.
I think so. It's very funny that the name of "蒋也" is everywhere but actually no new posts.
中立 lisa2008 19-9-2010 23:45

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原帖由 fanjy015 于 18-9-2010 15:02 发表
There are three reasons why I think media shouldn not report details of crimes.

The first reason is that details of crimes can teach some persons who wanted to crime but did not know the method to  ...
mm我能否提个建议?

你这个尝试我觉得非常好   ,我想把这个英语辩论帖子做一个限时高亮的推广。

不过目前唯一有个问题是,论坛这个辩论帖的功能不太完善:不仅页面格局让人不习惯,最主要是无法为精彩发言加分。我想建议你新开一个投票帖子(投票贴可以加分),把正反两方的观点做成两个选项,这样你开贴之后,你和pin版之间的几段讨论到时候也分别copy过去,然后我们继续辩论?
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 楼主| 发表于 21-9-2010 14:15:37 | 只看该作者
这两天家里网时断时续的,因为我是蹭网上的,所以也没有办法了,只能等网好的时候再整理帖子。
最近夜班翻得很混乱,我自己的回复也不能很及时,因为平版的发言质量很高,我也不能敷衍了事,所以等着周末我休息,思路清楚的时候再回复。
但是,关键还是鼓励其他同学来发言,就当做雅思考试大作文和口语part 3的练兵好了。
大家加油,精彩发言一定加分。
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发表于 21-9-2010 14:32:36 | 只看该作者

看来需要重新编辑一下俺的观点

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There are three reasons why I disagree media shouldn't report details of crimes.

First of all, the public need to know the truth, not just sth that blurs the fact. The details of crime help people get to know the truth of whole process.

Next, the details of crimes will help teach people learn how to prevent themselves from being hurt by the criminals. They may learn what they should do and what they should not under some dangerous circumstances.

Last but not least, knowing the details of crime will help people fight with the criminals. What's more, people may be well prepared for the upcoming dangerous, they will be highly alert and sensitive, and proactively prevent the crimes from happening.

辩驳正方观点


I think the reasons provided by the positive side does not hold water at all. Let me give you the reasons one by one.
The first reason is that details of crimes can teach some persons who wanted to crime but did not know the method to crime find  ways to do evil things.

If the details of crime is a text book of prime, it is the public who will get more benefit from it. In fact, it the criminals want to get some method, they have lots of ways to get it. For example, one can easily buy a novel that detailed the process of a criminal offense. Most of them does not care much about the news at all. But for the public, the media is the most common way for them to get those information.
The second reason is that details can evoke victims' painful memories about the crimes and deprive of their privacy and dignity.
That's not true. Although I'm not a psychologist, I clearly know that the victims definitely need to face what happened to them directly. Avoid talking, hearing the fact of the crime all the time will not help them get rid of the shadow of the hurt.
[quote]The third reason is that details of crime might make the criminals who wanted to have fun from the crimes feel happy and encourage them commit crimes again.

That reason is funny. It looks like the positive side has attibuted the reason of crime is the criminals what to get fun. I would say this opinion is quite harmful because it neglects the social reason of crime. Criminals are not born as criminals, they are ordinary people, they have their own dream, they are just like any of us. If we want to prevent crimes from happening, what we need do is not hiding the truth, we need probe the real social reason.

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