建议以种族歧视和公共场合不当言论起诉Ryan88，有意者请进来

chubbycat · 发表于 22-5-2012 01:00:21

我反对

god_lord · 发表于 22-5-2012 01:26:40

任何的开放自由都是建立在尊重他人，尊重自然规则的基础上。
你在美国的公开论坛和媒体上侮辱黑人试下，
或者你在德国公开发表纳粹言行，你看看会招致什么后果！

具体看，哪里都有好人，坏人，中国人也是有好有坏，凭什么一股脑的把华人全打倒？

绝对支持楼主！！

black_zerg · 发表于 22-5-2012 01:37:31

这事怎么说呢，我还是不能相信本身是中国人，又真的会这么鄙视中国人的，尤其这位估计还是个男的。无非是小孩说点偏激的话博眼球。你至于这么较真么。再说这又本是个华人论坛，相当于内部的自我批评，又不是公共场合大骂亚洲人。一看他那话就是属于没事找抽型，咱成年人不至于那么激动。

xblues · 发表于 22-5-2012 01:55:57

原帖由 god_lord 于 22-5-2012 00:26 发表

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任何的开放自由都是建立在尊重他人，尊重自然规则的基础上。
你在美国的公开论坛和媒体上侮辱黑人试下，
或者你在德国公开发表纳粹言行，你看看会招致什么后果！
具体看，哪里都有好人，坏人，中国人也是有好有坏，凭什么一股脑的把华人全打倒？
绝对支持楼主！！

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原帖由 god_lord 于 17-5-2012 23:51 发表

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真搞不明白一些人了，同性恋当然是不正常的，毫无疑问。现在有些人不知道什么心理，搞的好像不是同性恋就不正常一样。
我们说不歧视同性恋，不是说认可同性恋。而是要帮助他，走上正轨。就像我们不其实艾滋病病人一样，
病人值得我们同情，和帮助，但是艾滋病绝对是一种病，要去治愈。对待同性恋也是这样一个态度！
可笑之极！

种族通婚代表着人人平等，
而同性恋完全是一种病态，
别说同性恋不应合法化了，它更应该看做一种病态，需要被治愈！

我所说的符合圣经的道
符合自然规律
还是那句话，你的辱骂，暴力，我不会介意
我会为你祷告，求神看顾你！
你可以了解下，圣经中神对同性恋的厌恶和愤怒。
为你祷告：）

chubbycat · 发表于 22-5-2012 06:21:42

oh boy busted

chubbycat · 发表于 22-5-2012 06:58:15

原帖由 Samantabhadra 于 21-5-2012 14:31 发表

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没事儿，青山说了只要不说TMD就没事儿
油饼说了只要不说40+未婚男人就没事儿

chubbycat · 发表于 22-5-2012 07:00:49

原帖由 dcxg 于 21-5-2012 18:27 发表

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估计除了我，没别人了啊，我琢磨着是胳膊拧不过大腿啊

话说，通常真理是掌握在少数人手里的

哎，哥绝对就是那少数派之一

我反对

hsy12 · 发表于 22-5-2012 09:03:10

原帖由 black_zerg 于 22-5-2012 00:37 发表

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这事怎么说呢，我还是不能相信本身是中国人，又真的会这么鄙视中国人的，尤其这位估计还是个男的。无非是小孩说点偏激的话博眼球。你至于这么较真么。再说这又本是个华人论坛，相当于内部的自我批评，又不是公共场合 ...

不较真的话，还有一群渣“操你妈，祖国”呢。什么玩意儿。

越野牛仔 · 发表于 22-5-2012 11:28:31

先说一哈版主的态度问题，我觉得没问题，如果我是版主也会瞧热闹的，说白了咱们都是义务给论坛凑人气的。说话过头有法律管着呢，言责自负，就像厨具店卖刀，你买了去砍人还是切菜我不管。
再说一哈LZ的问题，我也觉得没问题，老实话刚看到那些个言论的时候，的确很气不过，差点儿也想给他搞个合集给大家看看，一个人可以疯狂到什么程度。想到起诉他说明LZ是个正义感很强的人，是个敢做并且懂法的人。
还有那个在网上大放厥词的人，仔细想想也不算问题，哪儿不得有个小丑跳出来给大家解解闷，你要跟他真较真，好像感觉把自己的心智都拉低了。还是相信明白人占大多数。
多说一句，我觉得他把自己从中国人里面剥离出来还是有点儿层次低了，什么人种里都有差不多的问题，还是应该可以提高一下，从人类里面跳出来看问题，不管用简体字还是繁体字还是英文，下次记得说你们丫人类太贱，我以身为人类为耻，谁说我是人我跟谁急，我TM不是人。

阿贞 · 发表于 22-5-2012 12:33:06

Self-hatred literally refers to an extreme dislike of oneself, or being angry at oneself. The term is also used to designate a dislike or hatred of a group to which one belongs. For instance, ‘ethnic self-hatred’ is the extreme dislike of one’s ethnic group. Accusations of self-hatred are often used as an ad hominem attack.

The term ‘self-hatred’ is used infrequently by psychologists and psychiatrists, who would usually describe people who hate themselves as ‘persons with low self-esteem‘. Some people think that self-hatred and shame are important factors in some or many mental disorders, especially disorders that involve a perceived defect of oneself (e.g. body dysmorphic disorder). “Ethnic self-hatred” is considered by some people as being a cultural issue, to which psychological theories have limited relevance.

阿贞 · 发表于 22-5-2012 12:34:19

Black self-hatred
Black self-hatred is generally defined as a Black person who hates his Black racial identity and may try to distance himself from this identity. Like Jewish self-hate, there is some disagreement as to what it means to be Black. Some Black people feel that those who demonstrate a preference for clothing styles, music choices, etc. that have been predominantly associated with white culture are self-hating. Thus for them being Black is more just one’s skin color. Some, such as journalist John Carlson, have suggested that gangsta rap is a form of Black Self-hatred. In his view, when Black rappers portray Black women as “bitches” and “whores” and Black men as “worthy of respect only in relation to their capacity to kill or maim others” they are essentially expressing a form of self-hate with basically buying into and propagating, through their music, racist stereotypes about Black people. This term has been used by Black supremacist groups to defend racism.
Black self hatred can show itself in the form of embarassment or shame in those things that are culturally identified with African heritage. It is ingrained in subtle ways from childhood. A person becomes reluctant to share or perpetuate activities or traditions that have in the past cause them pain. They come to hate those things and in extention themselves.

阿贞 · 发表于 22-5-2012 12:35:45

我觉得这是mental disorders和low self-esteem。要看医生，不是见法官。

阿贞 · 发表于 22-5-2012 12:37:55

white self-hatred

You can see where I am going with this argument. White “privilege” is a concept resulting from racial self-hatred. It is hatred of the white race by whites. This is nothing new. There are blacks who hate the black race, Jews who hate the Jewish people, and every other kind of group self-hatred. However, it is still an anomaly that deserves an explanation.

The normal inclination would be to love oneself or love one’s group. Why do many white people hate “whiteness” or white people as a group? Do they hate themselves; or am I missing something?

Being a white man who does not hate the white race, I can only speculate as to the motivation of my fellow whites who are obsessed with fighting white racism. Is this because they think it is a serious problem in our society. Are blacks still being persecuted? Then why not focus on actual instances of persecution?

What does racial slavery have to do with anything any more? This practice ended 145 years ago. There are more recent kinds of abuse that need to be addressed. Such agitation might actually do some good. To complain about the extinct institution of slavery is like beating a dead horse.

No, white self-hatred may be related to one’s individual sense of self-identity. If a white person hates white people as a group, I would suspect that he or she does not fully identify with being white. Physically I am white, the person might say, but spiritually I am not. There is something about me which is not white. This kind of whiteness is representative of something other than skin color. Maybe it has to do with the so-called “white society”. It says: I am alienated from white society. I am not part of the majority population or the society’s power structure.

Rebellious teenagers are often alienated from society. They are “special” in some way. For instance, they are a minority among their peers. The person may be a female in a “man’s world”, or a gay or lesbian in a society that is predominately straight. In that case, it would be natural to identify with a persecuted minority rather than with the majority population.

阿贞 · 发表于 22-5-2012 12:39:19

同学们，要有学术精神

combread · 发表于 22-5-2012 12:44:11

原帖由 Samantabhadra 于 22-5-2012 11:33 发表 Self-hatred literally refers to an extreme dislike of oneself, or being angry at oneself. The term is also used to designate a dislike or hatred of a group to which one belongs. For instance, ‘ethnic self-hatred’ is the extreme dislike of one’s ethnic group. Accusations of self-hatred are often used as an ad hominem attack.

原来真有这种情况啊。我一直比较疑惑，甚至百思不得其解。

独来独往 · 发表于 22-5-2012 12:51:56

原帖由 dcxg 于 21-5-2012 19:27 发表

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ryan88只不过把别人想说又没说的，说出来罢了，这个问题很大吗？一点问题都没有。
你可以选择不看，不回复，这是你的自由，没有问题。
如果说这种言论伤害了谁，损害了谁，我还真没看出来。

尼玛中国还学雷 ...

同意！许多人根本不懂得反思自己。

阿贞 · 发表于 22-5-2012 13:10:25

如果从学术的角度看，freeoz非常有价值，所以要挺住啊，难得的病例积累。

我爱OZ · 发表于 22-5-2012 13:48:27

刚发现这个！

哈哈！

过街老鼠，人人喊打。

xblues · 发表于 22-5-2012 14:02:15

那个 god_lord 呢，要不要也一起疯掉啊。

我爱OZ · 发表于 22-5-2012 14:11:25

虫子，你不要假公济私，谋取私利，公家的论题，你泄私愤。

god_lord 和你之间是个人恩怨矛盾。

这ryan88, 侮辱谩骂的是全体中国人，包括你我他她。

南蛮子语 · 发表于 22-5-2012 14:17:26

Ryan88怎么不过来回应一下？

xblues · 发表于 22-5-2012 15:04:08

原帖由 我爱OZ 于 22-5-2012 13:11 发表

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虫子，你不要假公济私，谋取私利，公家的论题，你泄私愤。
god_lord 和你之间是个人恩怨矛盾。
这ryan88, 侮辱谩骂的是全体中国人，包括你我他她。

凭什么其实中国人是大家的事情，歧视同性恋你就说我假公济私啊？！

xblues · 发表于 22-5-2012 15:05:35

如果你们FreeOZ上面连这个问题也搞不懂，我看还是不要说什么Ryan啦，大家不一样的黑，但是都是差不多黑！

xblues · 发表于 22-5-2012 15:07:25

关系到你切身利益，你就叫唤，不关系自己，就装作没看见。这和那个God_lord有什么区别？只能看到别人的屁股，自己的遗臭万年了也不知道洗一下。

xblues · 发表于 22-5-2012 15:08:17

FreeOZ这种人太多了，黄了算了，免得看的恶心。

combread · 发表于 22-5-2012 15:14:48

原帖由 xblues 于 22-5-2012 14:08 发表

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FreeOZ这种人太多了，黄了算了，免得看的恶心。

这个帖子又变成吵架帖了，唉…………………………………………

大水牛 · 发表于 22-5-2012 15:29:11

也许我告别，将不再回来，你是否理解？你是否明白？
也许我倒下，将不再起来，你是否还要永久的期待？
如果是这样，你不要悲哀，共和国的旗帜上有我们血染的风采。
如果是这样，你不要悲哀，共和国的旗帜上有我们血染的风采。
也许我（你）的眼睛再不能睁开，你是否（我深深）理解我（你）沉默的情怀？
也许我（你）长眠将不能醒来，你是否（我会）相信我（你）化做了山脉？
如果是这样，你（我）不要（会）悲哀，共和国的土壤里有我们付出的爱。
如果是这样，你（我）不要（会）悲哀，共和国的土壤里有我们付出的爱。
如果是这样，你不要悲哀（我不悲哀），共和国的旗帜上有我们血染的风采

combread · 发表于 22-5-2012 15:34:08

原帖由 大水牛 于 22-5-2012 14:29 发表

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也许我告别，将不再回来，你是否理解？你是否明白？
也许我倒下，将不再起来，你是否还要永久的期待？
如果是这样，你不要悲哀，共和国的旗帜上有我们血染的风采。
如果是这样，你不要悲哀，共和国的旗帜上有我们 ...

兄台把这里当做天安门广场了么

大水牛 · 发表于 22-5-2012 15:45:54

呵呵，拿坦克把Ryan88给突突突突突突压扁算了。

zzoz · 发表于 22-5-2012 16:38:39

原帖由 black_zerg 于 21-5-2012 20:57 发表

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我觉得小题大做，他要是老外我就支持你告他，他要本身就是中国人这就没啥好说得了。

那你就支持一下好了，那家伙到处宣传自己出国10年，是海外华人，不是中国人

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