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选择澳洲over加拿大的原因

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发表于 3-11-2009 22:13:04 | 只看该作者
真是这种冰天雪地的环境才铸就了加拿大的水电机械航空等完备的重工业体系。
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发表于 4-11-2009 00:35:11 | 只看该作者
澳大利亚,,,,,
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 楼主| 发表于 24-11-2009 23:37:13 | 只看该作者
最近在canadameet混 看到投加拿大的同志们也是铁着心呢 改天也去那边开个投票贴
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发表于 24-11-2009 23:44:01 | 只看该作者
其实我很想去加拿大,我最好的朋友在那
但是我不在38项紧缺职业里,没办法
不过澳洲有我两个同学还有一个远方表哥,也算好吧

唉,我想大多数人最想去的是美国……
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35#
发表于 25-11-2009 02:02:37 | 只看该作者
美国假期少,房子要交很多税
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发表于 1-12-2009 02:26:01 | 只看该作者
澳洲接近英国的社会风气,传统单纯,加拿大没得比
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37#
发表于 4-12-2009 01:15:34 | 只看该作者
美国就是枪支不管制
税多到让人受不了

其它都还不错啦!
尤其自然风景多样化
我一定要找机会到美国玩个三个月

但是以纯粹居住
澳洲还是比较适合
就是物质方面的选择比较欠缺

能够理解
才2200万人,那么老远的地方
东西的选择怎么会多呢?

还是那一句话
世界上没有十全十美的地方!

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38#
发表于 12-12-2009 23:58:17 | 只看该作者
说实话,加拿大福利比澳洲差多了
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发表于 31-12-2009 12:51:55 | 只看该作者
关于福利比较,我也来share 一下前两天从网上搜的东西:
感觉澳洲生孩子比加好的多,不仅有$5000,而且每个月都有几百补贴。
但养老金好像加拿大比奥州好很多:对于一个没有工作的家庭,在加一个人能拿到800多加元, 在澳洲两个人好像还不到1000澳元。
听说失业金也是加拿大更实惠。

不知道对不对,希望有经验的同志具体讲讲。
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发表于 9-1-2010 01:10:57 | 只看该作者
oz热天多,穿吊带机会多
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发表于 10-1-2010 11:38:23 | 只看该作者
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发表于 15-1-2010 22:29:07 | 只看该作者
英国移民论坛上的比较帖,供大家参考:
Canada versus Australia : British Expat Wiki
http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Canada_versus_Australia

Introduction

    * A question that frequently comes up on the BE forum is which of these two countries, Canada and Australia, is a more appealing place for a British expat to live.
    * This is a difficult question to answer. There really is no "one size fits all" response.
    * This article will provide some points for consideration.

[edit] Canada's advantages

    * Closer to the UK; hence it's quicker and cheaper to travel between the two countries.
    * You're more likely to receive visits from British rellies if you live in Canada. You may put this on the plus or minus side of the ledger, as you see fit.
    * Seasons in synch. Since British and Canadian cousins have their long summer vacations (holidays) at the same time, it's easier to coordinate family visits.
    * For those who want a true four-season climate, Canada is the place to go (except for coastal British Columbia, whose climate is more like that of the UK -- but even then you're always close to snow-covered mountains on which you can ski).
    * Christmas is in winter, if that means a lot to you.
    * Proximity to the USA, if you'd like that.
    * French language in Quebec, New Brunswick, part of Ontario and at federal government level, if you like that.
    * Costs of consumer goods and electrical items are generally cheaper in Canada compared to Australia, helped by proximity to U.S. market.
    * Canadian provinces have more autonomy than Australian states, and there is therefore more diversity of laws, rules and taxes between provinces in Canada compared to the differences between Australian states, if you like that.
    * Canada is not so ecologically fragile. Drought has not been a big issue in recent years.
    * Far more culturally and socially aware than australia. Minorities are far more respected and treated fairly.
    * Earnings power combined with significantly cheaper products allows people to live much more comfortably than australia.
    * Social system is light years ahead of australia.
    * Education system is of a much higher standard and schools are much safer than australian schools. To get an equivalent standard to the free public system in Canada an australian would have to pay the high fees and go to a private school.
    * Working conditions are of a much higher standard than Australia.

[edit] Australia's advantages

    * The process by which foreigners get professional or technical accreditation generally is clearer in Australia.
    * Australian employers will generally have more familiarity with British work experience and qualifications.
    * Some cultural similarities with the UK that Canada doesn't have, e.g., cricket, rugby, Australian (Aussie) Rules (similar to Gaelic football)etc.
    * Although the seasons are out of synch with those of the UK, it may appeal to your British rellies to have a summer break during their winter.
    * Hot climate, if that appeals (although, given Australia's huge size, this necessarily is an over-generalization). Varies from hot and humid in the northern tropics to drizzily, cold or freezing in Tasmania. The alpine regions of south-eastern Australia have a "four season" climate with snow in winter.
    * Feasible to move most electrical goods, although unless white goods are of high quality it may not be worth bringing them. Requires use of socket/plug adaptor. VCRs etc may need "chipping" or run through set top boxes to be compatible with transmission frequencies (again many migrants choose not to bring TV/VCR). Dvd's are a different region code (4) to the UK region (2), but all can be viewed if you have multi-region player. VCR tapes will play on an Australian player.
    * Driving is on the same side of the road as it is in the UK. Hence you can in theory move your British car to Australia. Needs to be pass compliance inspection and then registered before you can drive on road. Parts may be hard to obtain for some makes and models. Also there may be import duties payable. Usually the cost does not make sense.
    * Almost all Australian states give full recognition to British drivers licences and do not require a re-test for standard driver entitlement. This is only the case in some Canadian provinces and not in others.
    * Relative proximity to Asia, if you'd like that.
    * An Australian passport gives you residence rights in New Zealand, if you'd like that.
    * Annual leave, on average, is longer in Australia than it is in Canada. (But in both countries it varies from industry to industry and from employer to employer.)
    * There is more scope for the average citizen to challenge legally incorrect public service decision making in Australia than is typically the case in Canada. Ombudsmen generally have more power in Australia and the Australian Administrative Appeals Tribunal has no Canadian equivalent.

[edit] Shared advantages

    * Both Canada and Australia are sparsely populated compared with the UK and have much more wilderness space than the UK has. Canada and Australia tend to appeal to people who like lots of natural space.
    * Both countries allow dual citizenship (usually after 4 years in Australia under new rules, usually 3 years in Canada). Note that the administrative process for becoming a citizen is substantially simpler in Australia.
    * If you have a child born in the country, child will automatically be a citizen (in Australia provided at least one parent is a citizen or permanent resident, in Canada regardless of parents' immigration status provided they're not diplomats or similar).
    * Both Canada and Australia have a laid back lifestyle compared with the UK.
    * English (or at least a version thereof) is spoken in both Canada (except in some French-speaking areas) and Australia, which makes it relatively easy for a British expat to settle in.
    * Both countries are inhabited by rather nice people, in the main.
    * Both Canadian and Australian passports give the option of gaining a foothold in the United States for some with professional occupations (TN visa/status for Canadians, E-3 visa for Australians).
    * Both countries have dollar currencies and use the metric system.
    * Both have a "Westminster style" government, although Australia's federal parliament has more in common with the United States (eg a powerful Senate). Both countries have significant powers exercised by state/province/territory governments. Both are constitutional monarchies, although Australia is more likely than Canada to switch to a republic in the medium term.
    * Levels of taxation 'broadly equivalent.

[edit] Shared disadvantages

    * Both countries lack history and culture.
          o Well, actually, both countries have aboriginal cultures that go back tens of thousands of years. But, for the most part, neither of those aboriginal cultures left permanent structures and artefacts on the scale of those to be found in Europe.
          o There are some who have argued that that indeed was aboriginal people's gift to the future -- the very fact that they left the land largely untouched.
          o Be that as it may, the point is that both Canada and Australia lack what feels to British people like history and culture. Much as British people may think they want to have easy access to beautiful scenery and wilderness spaces, the reality is that, after some time in one of these "new" countries, some British expats find themselves longing for the UK's old buildings and quaint villages and pubs. They come to feel that Canada (or Australia) lacks depth.

    * Although it's true that Canada is closer to the UK than Australia is, it's also true that neither country is just round the corner from your British family members. Some British expats find themselves missing their British family members and friends.
          o Sometimes it happens pretty soon after the move to the new country, and sometimes it happens years down the road. Sometimes it's a feeling that starts out as a niggling little worry at the back of your mind and that grows into something more serious. Sometimes it's precipitated by a sudden event, such as a death in the family.
          o It's almost impossible to predict, when you emigrate, whether or not homesickness will become a major issue.

    * Neither Canada nor Australia has quick, cheap flights to Europe. A weekend getaway to Paris isn't an option. This too is something that some British expats in North America and Down Under come to miss.


[edit] What to do?

    * This process has no guarantees.
    * You should research your options as exhaustively as you can. Ask advice on the forums from people who have done it.
    * It is enormously helpful to do a recce trip to your chosen destination (or even more than one recce trip if that is possible).
    * Read the Moving back to the UK forum, as that will give you an idea of the factors that drive people to give up their emigration dreams. Remember though, that one persons' experiences may differ from another or yourself.
    * Then, after having done all that, just make the most informed decision that you can.
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发表于 15-1-2010 22:30:35 | 只看该作者
Canada Immigration Discussion Forum - Best country to migrate Canada or Australia
http://www.immigration.ca/discus ... 375&whichpage=3

一个印度人的帖子:

Hi,
I lived in Australia for the past 7 years (australian citizen), also live in London, Uk for 3 years and now I also got PR in Canada. I have to say I have more less stable government job in Australia but wanted to see what it would be like in Canada as well as I consider myself quite lucky to get this choice.

I have to say that before coming to Canada I was annoyed with Australian healthcare system (really difficult to find good doctors who cares)I had miscarriage and was left in the hospital with a needle in my vein (without any medicine) for an hour...
However, I came to Canada and with Swine flu spreading around the world, I decided to contact a doctor here and find that it's very hard even to see a doctor in the first place which is even worse than in Australia.

In regards to jobs: I see that to get a well paid job in Canada is very hard to find. I was told that majority people earn $30K-40K per annum in Canada. and have higher salary than is very hard. Taxes are high...
In Australia, it took me a long time to get a job and the job that I have now (although it's more less more stable but government is doing restructuring so there is no future growth and my salary is below average as well)

I have not worked in Canada and won't be able to comment about the racism etc. In Australia, there is underlined racism for sure...due to strict laws the common respond to your unsuccessful application is "Due to high volume of very skilled applicants, your application was unsuccessful at this time...."
There is also a "positive discrimination" or "affirmative action" going on with this new government where they decide to free up more jobs for aboriginese, i.e. a lot of them don't have any education or very little and/or no experience but they get very good positions sometimes highly paid positions....because of that there are less opportunities for everybody else of course...

As a newcomer to Canada, I was very impressed with the number of agencies that are trying to help newcomers to get jobs (In Australia, you more less on your own to get job etc..) I am yet to see the real benefit of this Canadian "help" which is funded by the government, but it is better than in Australia. I think that is why in Australia you see that new migrants try to stick to their own cultures because there is no much network and help from Australians (I mean those who were born there)

I don't know about Canada, but in Australia many of my friends from variuous backgrounds, not anglo Australians, so nearly all of them say that even if they were born in Australia or came to Australia when they were very little (meaning that they speak without any foreign acsent) they are often asked "where are you from?" so when they reply "I am australian and was born here" the next question usually is "No, I mean, where are you really from, your background?"
So, to me it's still very weird and offensive, because if they are from anglo-saxon background, people don't ask them questions like"what crime did your great grandparents committed for them to come to Australia?" Right?

I think it's an immigrants' curse to feel that you stuck between 2 worlds, the world where you originally come from and the other one where you are trying to get into. You lost touch and cannot completely fit into your old world and never be completely accepted in your new one....
At the moment, I like Canadians, the people here seems to be more accepting, because so many of them feel to be kinder than Australians. However, in Australia I am more extablished and have my own appartment.
If I would be able to find a good job in Canada, I would love to stay here and in the long term I feel that this country has more potential.
Australia has too many problems with water and in coming years, I see it would be more expensive to live there.

I would love to here your opinions, thanks.
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发表于 17-1-2010 14:09:56 | 只看该作者
理由不重要,到底在哪里生根? 缘分呢!
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发表于 17-1-2010 14:30:12 | 只看该作者
大家就别逗自己玩了,有最近去过加拿大的吗,我刚去过,现在的澳洲和加拿大已经没有任何可比性了,难民数量澳洲胜,房价物价澳洲
胜,网络情况澳洲完胜,当时去不了加拿大才来的澳洲,周围的许多人也都是这个情况,对了,前不久澳洲满天黄沙,那天是传说中的沙尘暴吗
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发表于 17-1-2010 15:49:59 | 只看该作者
加拿大工资太低了,比澳洲少30%左右,国家太穷了
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发表于 17-1-2010 15:52:39 | 只看该作者
原帖由 batigol 于 17-1-2010 15:49 发表
加拿大工资太低了,比澳洲少30%左右,国家太穷了

澳大利亚房价世界第一!
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发表于 17-1-2010 21:20:10 | 只看该作者
原帖由 icebear 于 17-1-2010 15:52 发表

澳大利亚房价世界第一!


真的吗?
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49#
发表于 18-1-2010 21:03:13 | 只看该作者
實話說,我真的不是很喜歡澳洲。早年跑船,無數次去過加拿大和澳洲,儘管加拿大很冷,但那裡的那份親切感一直讓我念念不忘;而澳洲呢!第一次踏上去的時候,沒聽懂一句話,甚至懷疑是否在講英語。我的太太的同學和同事也都在加拿大,在她印象里,木條板裝飾過的房子才是真正的“外國房子”,澳洲的磚屋和平房和大陸家鄉的房子沒有兩樣!無需比較很多,哥只覺得:”移民移的是心裡,不是條件“。年紀大了,就這個覺悟,大家盡情拍磚吧,哥真的老了,受得了!!
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发表于 18-1-2010 21:11:12 | 只看该作者
早年我們的巨無霸,每每滿載十幾萬噸,從澳洲昆州出發,一般就是去巴西,一路南行向南極圈,尤其過紐西蘭霍克海峽,但見薄霧升騰,而後又見冰山,想想前路漫漫還有至少1個月的航程,而且中途并無什麽可靠的避險之地(復活節島是有的,但也是個邪地),真的很是凄涼。所以澳洲在我心裡一直是一個痛,真的很痛!!
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发表于 27-1-2010 17:18:55 | 只看该作者

回复 #1 胡萝卜和菠菜 的帖子

我想如果第三次世界大战 战场应该不会放澳大利亚吧 否则打哪个国家都有点远啊?!
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发表于 27-1-2010 17:27:16 | 只看该作者

回复 #51 dongbotang 的帖子

来抢资源啊!那么大一片的大后方。
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发表于 27-1-2010 17:35:52 | 只看该作者

回复 #52 alphabeta 的帖子

这么恐怖啊
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发表于 27-1-2010 22:24:52 | 只看该作者

回复 #53 dongbotang 的帖子

二战的时候日军都狂轰滥炸过达尔文了,潜艇还偷袭了悉尼港
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发表于 28-1-2010 13:32:30 | 只看该作者
原帖由 Sophia 于 24-11-2009 23:44 发表
其实我很想去加拿大,我最好的朋友在那
但是我不在38项紧缺职业里,没办法
不过澳洲有我两个同学还有一个远方表哥,也算好吧

唉,我想大多数人最想去的是美国……

Yeah!
米国,最想去的地方。能离它近点,能随时进入,永久不限次每次6个月免签也不错!
所以。偶枫叶国和袋鼠国都投递了!!!
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发表于 21-2-2010 21:44:40 | 只看该作者
加拿大华人根本找不到工作的,经济太差失业率是澳洲的一倍
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发表于 23-2-2010 00:59:11 | 只看该作者
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唉又不是买白菜,还代挑挑拣拣的。哪能去就去哪。
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发表于 23-2-2010 10:12:59 | 只看该作者
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[ 本帖最后由 CNCCNC 于 10-4-2010 23:39 编辑 ]
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发表于 12-7-2012 01:40:42 | 只看该作者
在加拿大呆了三年,那段时间是最悠闲的时光。漫长的冬天不是特别负面的因素吧。反正大部分时间都在户内活动,而大城市里面冬天也有很多有趣的场所啊,还可以溜冰滑雪。不过现在回国以后再移民,因为技术门槛的原因也只能选择澳洲了

[ 本帖最后由 kkmp 于 12-7-2012 00:43 编辑 ]
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发表于 12-7-2012 11:44:37 | 只看该作者
原帖由 kkmp 于 12-7-2012 00:40 发表
在加拿大呆了三年,那段时间是最悠闲的时光。漫长的冬天不是特别负面的因素吧。反正大部分时间都在户内活动,而大城市里面冬天也有很多有趣的场所啊,还可以溜冰滑雪。不过现在回国以后再移民,因为技术门槛的原因也 ...

说反了吧,澳洲门槛比艰难大要高的多,您艰难大都没戏还谈什么澳洲?
您在艰难大没有找份工作试试? 我在艰难大除了看到满街乱窜找不到工作的中国移民就是漫天大雪,每年加拿大都有中国移民找不到工作自杀事件发生,他们要是有你这份享受生活的心情和经济实力就好了。

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